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Brandywine Realty Trust Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
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Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Brandywine Realty Trust Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star 11 again. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. and now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Jerry Sweeney, President and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Jonathan, thank you very much. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for participating in our third quarter 2026 earnings call. On today's call with me today are Dan Palazzo, our Senior Vice President, Chief Accounting Officer, and Tom Wirth, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Just to note Prior to beginning, certain information discussed on the call today may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities law. Although we believe the estimates reflected in these statements are based on reasonable assumptions, we cannot give assurance that the anticipated results will be achieved. For further information on factors that could impact our anticipated results, please reference our press release as well as our most recent annual and quarterly reports that we file with the SEC. Okay, so during our prepared comments today, Tom and I will briefly review third quarter results and frame out our key assumptions that drive our guidance for the balance of the year. After that, Dan, Tom, and I are available to answer any questions. So from a capital markets operating and liquidity standpoint, the third quarter produced results that exceeded or were in line with our 2026 business plan. And since our last call, We've made significant progress on our capital markets plan, primarily on asset sales and debt reduction. Quarterly highlights include, we increased our 2026 sales guidance from 305 million to 681 million, highlighted by the sale of 3151 Market Street and our partnership interest in Solaris House in Austin, Texas. The 3151 sale was for $240 million, were $544 per square foot. It's important to note, as we identified in the SIF, that that sale also eliminated our forward capital spend of almost $80 million. On our sales target, we are 100% achieved and fully funded. Our speculative revenue target increased by an additional $1 million, and we are 100% achieved at $19.5 million, with basically nothing left to do for the balance of 2026. on that target. This marks the second increase to our speculative revenue target this year and is now almost 12% higher than our initial 2026 business plan. Third quarter FFO of 14 cents per share was in line with management guidance and estimates. We are maintaining our 55 cent per share full year midpoint and have narrowed our full year FFO guidance range Our core FFO results, as Tom will articulate, exclude losses on early extinguishment of debt that we incurred during the quarter. With the increased sales achieved, we had paid off $390 million, or over 13% of our outstanding combined debt. This is a $218 million increase over our initial 2026 debt reduction target. That does include the payoff of the loan securing both 31-51 market and Solaris House. Accelerating these debt paydowns lowered our year end net debt to EBITDA midpoint from 8.4 to 8.8, down to 7.8 to eight times, about an 8% reduction at the midpoint and reduced our quarterly run rate from 9.0X in Q2 to 7.6 in the third quarter. From an operating standpoint, solid operating metrics during the quarter reinforced our strong market position and what we're continuing to see is a tenant's preference for very high quality office space. Our wholly owned portfolio is 90.5% leased and 89% occupied. We had a very small negative net absorption of about 7,000 square feet during the quarter. Our year end occupancy and lease percentages will improve through year end and we will have positive net absorption for the first time in several years, I think as additional evidence of our pipeline continue to build and our portfolio quality. Leasing activity for the quarter was our highest for the year, totaling 558,000 square feet, including 372,000 square feet in our wholly owned portfolio. Also included in that number is about 114,000 square feet that we leased at one uptown since our last call, bringing that property to 97% lease. Four leasing commencing after the quarter totals 163,000 square feet with 111,000 square feet taking occupancy this year. Tenant retention was 50%, resulting in our raising our full year midpoint retention target to 54%. This raise was mainly due to unbudgeted renewals and expansions in both the Philadelphia CBD and Pennsylvania marketplaces. Our capital ratio for the quarter was 8.9%. that allowed us to narrow and lower our 20 to 2026 business plan range from 12 to 13 percent to 11 to 12 percent. Our gap mark to market was 10.8 percent. We're narrowing our four year guidance range to five to six percent versus five to seven percent. Cash mark to market was five point seven percent. The adjustments to the guidance are a result of executing lower-cost capital renewals with existing tenants. As a result, this quarter, our CAG number was higher than planned due to a number of those unbudget renewals that temporarily increased our revenue-maintaining CapEx run rate. Same-store results were negative 0.6% on a GAAP basis and a positive 1.7% on a cash basis, both within our current guidance ranges. Tour volume in the third quarter remained very strong, slightly below the high volume we saw in Q2, with higher tour volumes in our CBD and University City markets, slightly lower in the Pennsylvania suburbs, and the same levels quarter over quarter in Austin. We also continue to experience very good tour conversion rates. For the trailing four quarters, 54% of tours converted to a proposal. From proposal, 49% converted to an executed lease. Both are running ahead of our historical averages. Just a few additional comments regarding market dynamics. In Philadelphia, we're now 95% occupied and 96% leased with only 7% rolling annually through 2028. We continued our outperformance trend in the CBD and University City during the first nine months of this year, with 60% of all new leasing signed in our CBD and University City submarkets being out of Brandywine property, as I noted on previous calls, significantly exceeding our 15% market share. Office to residential conversion activity now aggregates in Philadelphia CBD over 5 million square feet. There's about 11% of Philadelphia's inventory, and we believe that that dynamic will continue and further improve our competitive market position. In the Pennsylvania suburbs, we're 93% leased, and we continue to see solid levels of pipeline prospects for the existing vacancies, particularly in our Radnor sub-market. Austin at 66% occupancy continues to lag the rest of the portfolio and does create about a 400 basis point drop in our overall company occupancy numbers. The operating portfolio leasing pipeline remains stable at 2 million square feet, and this pipeline includes about 300,000 square feet in very advanced stages of negotiation. Shifting to the balance sheet, Our liquidity position improved significantly during the quarter. While we had $137 million balance outstanding on our line of credit at quarter end, upon receipt of quarter end sale proceeds, we paid off that balance in early October. As such, there's no outstanding balance on our line of credit, and we have $175 million of cash on hand. As I noted previously, during the third quarter, we reduced outstanding debt by almost $400 million. resulting in total including wholly owned and joint venture about $27.2 million of interest savings and included in those amounts are about $140 million of bond retirements that we retired in the average interest cost of 8.7%. Obviously the vast majority of our sale proceeds consists with our business plan were used to reduce leverage and improve credit metrics. We will continue to use our cash balances and any subsequent sale proceeds to further reduce debt, including repurchasing bonds in the fourth quarter, and to a much lesser extent, to the extent dictated by the market repurchasing shares. As we noted on previous calls, until we make significant progress on all of our leveraged targets, we anticipate using only 5% to 10% of net proceeds to purchase shares. Our plan remains returning to investment-grade metrics. We will maintain minimal balances on our line of credit, and the execution of this sales program this year has been an excellent catalyst to reduce leverage and further improve all of our credit metrics. With our sales activity now complete and debt reduction underway, as I noted previously, we expect a significant improvement to our net debt to EBITDA, The year-end target we have identified in the SIPP does assume we continue to apply about $100 million of cash on hand to further reduce outstanding debt during the fourth quarter. On one uptown, which is the only remaining development project, we made significant progress during the quarter, and as I noted, we are now 97% leased. We expect this project to stabilize in the third quarter, slightly behind schedule due to build-out times with lease executions, but at a slightly higher pro forma yield. What's interesting to note is the uptown submarket where our projects are located is now about 95% plus leased, with a vacancy rate including sublease space of less than 5%, and really no large available blocks of space. So, as noted previously, in anticipation of our 20-2027 IBM lease expiration that will have an impact about 11 million dollars of net NOI on us, we plan to commence the redevelopment of at least one of those existing buildings upon achieving pre-leasing activity. Since announcing this redevelopment initiative, the pipeline has risen to about 1.5 million square feet. with all those prospects having lease commencement dates between late 27 and 2030. So the market response continues to be exceptional. The first building consists of 157,000 square feet. And again, assuming pre-leasing, and we're in significant discussion with some prospects, we expect to deliver a renovated building by year-end 27. Also, as prospective tenants requirements advance, we do have a planning underway to do similar renovations at some of the other buildings. As we discussed in our last call, our hope was to sell Solaris, our 340 unit residential project in Austin. That sale closed in September. We received net proceeds after paying off the $76 million construction loan and paying off our preferred investor. that project was held in a joint venture with Brandywine owning about 57% and was sold at a sub 4% cap rate. As we've already highlighted, we've increased our 26 business plan target to $681 million. And we're frankly delighted to achieve this increased sales target, particularly in light of the very choppy capital markets. So our team did a wonderful job of getting all those transactions closed. Thank you for joining us. So with that overview and our clear priority to continue to lower leverage and return to investment grade metrics, I'll turn the floor over to Tom to review financial results for the second quarter and the outlook for the balance of the year.
Tom Wirth
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Jerry, and good morning. Our third quarter net loss was $22.3 million, or $0.13 per share, and our core FFO, which excludes debt extinguishment charges, totaled $15.4 million, or $0.09 per share, totaling 24.6 million or 14 cents per dilute share and met the second quarter guidance and consensus estimates. Some general observations for the third quarter. Property NOI was 68.5 or 1.1 million below our forecast to lower retail and residential income. We anticipate improvement in those areas in the fourth quarter. G&A expense was above our forecast by half a million dollars, primarily due to compensation expense. Third quarter fees were $2.1 million or half a million above reforecast primarily due to third party leasing fees. Quarterly JVFFO, interest expense and other income were generally in line with the forecast. Looking at debt metrics, third quarter debt service and interest coverage ratios were 1.7 times. both equal to our second quarter results. We expect those coverage ratios to improve in the fourth quarter as we experience the full quarter impact of our bond purchases. Our third quarter annualized combined net debt to EBITDA was 7.6 times reflecting proceeds from our sales and corresponding debt repayments. During the fourth quarter, we expect these coverage ratio levels to increase slightly based on having the full quarter impact of sold properties in the fourth quarter cash flow. During the third quarter, we had no significant changes to our core portfolio since the properties that were sold during the quarter were either held for sale or classified as development. After looking at liquidity and financing, after the line of credit was paid off in early October, we had a solid liquidity position of $175 million of cash and no outstanding balance or unsecured line of credit. As Jerry mentioned on sales activity, we increased our target to $545 million on a wholly owned basis, which is 100% achieved and funded. The weighted average cap rate on those sales was 4.7% on a cash basis and 4.9% on a GAAP basis. In addition, the sales reduced our forward capital commitments, as Jerry mentioned, by around $79 million. A majority of these proceeds have been used to reduce debt and will continue on our path back to investment grade. We also have a portion of those sales being used for share buybacks. Looking at our unsecured bonds, our planned buyback of existing unsecured bonds focused on bonds with higher coupons that will have a more immediate impact on our coverage ratios. During the quarter, we purchased 140 million of secured bonds, representing 50 million of the 2028 bonds and 90 million of the 2029 bonds, reducing annual interest expense by $12.5 million. We incurred debt extinguishing costs of about $9.2 million. However, we did not include those in our second half FFO guidance as we discussed in the previous call. Our CPACE loan in connection with the sale 3151 market, we prepaid our $57.3 million loan with a 7.3 interest rate that collateralized the property. The early prepayment resulted in a $6.2 million loss on the early extinguishment of debt. As outlined on page one of our supplemental, during the quarter we reduced debt, including the line of credit, $390 million, which resulted in 24 million of annual interest expense savings on a wholly owned basis. The $24 million reduction represents approximately 18% of our second quarter 2006 midpoint guidance for annual interest expense. We anticipate using another 100 million of cash on hand to further reduce debt during the fourth quarter. are unsecured line of credit at an initial maturity date of June of 26 with two six-month extension options through June of 27. With our sales program now complete, we continue to work and our debt reduction program almost complete. We will work with our bank group to try and extend the line of credit this quarter. As we mentioned, recapitalization of our joint ventures, we've made significant progress toward recapitalizing the final two preferred equity development projects located in Austin, Texas. We have sold Solaris for $136 million and received over $16 million of cash after repaying our partner an existing construction loan, and we reduced the debt attribution by $43.6 million. We are now 97% done at one uptown on the leasing front, our office project, and we plan to recap that asset in the first quarter of 27 and rather than the fourth quarter of 26 based on the timing of the leasing. We expect that transaction to provide about $25 million of net proceeds and reduce our debt attribution by about $50 million in 2027. Property level income, now let's look at the fourth quarter. Property level income for the quarter should be about 68 million dollars and will be about half a million below the third quarter. The incremental decrease is primarily due to the sold properties between the NOI in the third quarter versus the zero NOI in the fourth quarter and that decrease will be about two million dollars. Offsetting that two million dollars is improvement in the Radnor Hotel which commenced operations earlier this year and is producing an incremental $800,000 of NOI between the third and the fourth quarters, and improved operating results at 3025 JFK, which also has $800,000 of improvement between the third and the fourth quarter. FFO contributions from our joint ventures will be about half a million dollars. G&A expense for the fourth quarter will total about $7 million. The sequential decrease is consistent with prior years. and our full year range is still 36 to 37 million. Interest expense, including deferred financing costs will approximately be 35 million, which includes 400,000 of capitalized interest. We've lowered our full year expense range by $3 million at the midpoint to account for the lower debt balances. As previously mentioned, in connection with potentially attiring additional debt, we may incur additional debt extinguishment costs during the fourth quarter that are not currently in our FFO or core FFO guidance. Termination fees and other income will total about $2.5 million. Net third-party fees will be about $2 million. Interest income will total about $1 million with the cash we currently have on hand. And our diluted share count for the should be about 177 million shares, reflecting the share buyback we did in the third quarter. And for clarity, the fourth quarter forecast will then result in core FFO range of 16 to 18 cents per share. During our turning to the capital market plan for the fourth quarter, which is pretty straightforward and totals about $165 million, our third quarter CAD payout ratio was 103, We've adjusted the CAD payout ratio to account for increased tenant renewals and revenue maintained capital that's being incurred, as well as some of the older capital that dates back to pre-2024. Looking at the larger uses, development spend will total $20 million, and we will then have $14 million of common dividends, $10 million of revenue maintaining capital, 11 million of revenue creating capital and 10 million of equity contributions to our joint ventures. The sources are going to be 20 million of cash flow after interest and using 145 million of our cash on hand. Based on the capital plan, we anticipate having a small amount of cash and no outstanding balance on our line of credit. We anticipate our net debt EBITDA range to be 7.8 to 8.0. and our fixed charge ratio to between 1.8 and 2.0. Implicit in these ratios is further reducing debt by another 100 million during the quarter. While the increase to 2026 sales has accelerated our deleveraging program, we are focused on additional sales in 2027 as we continue our goal to improve our pricing in public market debt and in our ratings. I will turn the call back over to Jerry. Tom, thanks very much.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
So as we look ahead, our asset quality and operating teams will really enable us to continue capitalizing on improving real estate market conditions. And we do expect overall market conditions from a leasing standpoint to continue to improve as we move into 2027. I think the success of our sales program has resulted in significant debt reduction well ahead of plan, improved liquidity, lower forward capital costs, which is a very key point that we are focused on, and really the complete elimination of our forward development risk. The groundwork has been laid through the 26 business plan executions so far. We plan on building on that continuing momentum to drive long-term value. With that, Jonathan, we're delighted to open up the floor for questions. As we always do, we ask that in the interest of time, you limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. Thank you very much.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. And our first question for today comes from the line of Nick Joseph from Citi. Your question, please.
Nick Joseph
Analyst, Citi
Thanks. Jerry, you outlined obviously a lot of the progress that you've made over the quarter and the year. I guess just As I think about the capital plan going forward, you mentioned still 5% to 10% to buy back shares. Why is that the right level versus using almost all the proceeds to continue the deleveraging plan?
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, I think it just provides us some additional flexibility. Frankly, as we set the target at the 5% to 10%, we announced it on last quarter call, we bought back much less than that. I think the major focus, and I'm glad you raised the question because it's nuanced, are major folks that is continuing to reduce our overall leverage and improving all of our key credit metrics to get back on the path towards investment grade. So hopefully that clarifies. We keep that flexibility out there based upon what we're seeing in the marketplace. But the reality is that the vast majority, almost without exception, is being applied to reduce debt, whether that be some of the construction secured loans we have, for continuing to get in the marketplace to retire bonds.
Nick Joseph
Analyst, Citi
Thanks. And then with one uptown, now 97% leased, what's the appetite to recap that asset?
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
I think we're going to take a hard look at that. We're already starting to talk to some potential partners to recap that and improve our balance sheet metrics. and as Tom outlined, now with that project fully leased and some of those leases, quite honestly, were in the process for a long period of time, but I think this quarter we were able to get all of them across the finish line. The build-out periods are underway for most of those tenants and we expect all of that capital to be spent in the first part of the year. So we're very keen, as Tom outlined, on fully vetting and exploring a recap option for that property in the first quarter.
Nick Joseph
Analyst, Citi
Thank you.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Dylan Brzezinski from Green Street. Your question, please.
Dylan Brzezinski
Analyst, Green Street
Hi, guys. Thanks, sir. Good morning. Thanks for the question. Maybe just touching on Austin, because it seems like if you look at the portfolio, right, the affiliate stuff is largely leased up fully today and it was a little room for improvement on the suburb side of things. But, you know, just looking at Austin, it appears that that's going to be sort of the major driver that sort of gets you guys over the hump into the total portfolio occupancy range of about 90%. So, I mean, this is a portfolio that you continue to see a leasing pipeline grow. Do you guys feel like your assets are well positioned? Maybe you can kind of just talk about your overall long-term plans in Austin. That would be helpful.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, a great question. Thank you. As I mentioned on previous calls, our major focus really within Austin is on our uptown ATX development. You know, and they were really happy that early next year, the train station will be fully operational. They expect that to be the second busiest train station along that line. And I will tell you truly, that was a major draw for us to attract a number of these tenants to one uptown. So it's not a singular focus in Austin Uptown, but that's our primary focus. You know, where we have vacancy in Austin right now, we have Four Points Center, one of those buildings that we continue to see a building pipeline there and hope to get some traction. We are actually pursuing a couple of prospects at this currently. and River Place, which really consists of two individual pods. We're actually evaluating converting one of those pods to residential development. There was some state legislation passed in Austin or in Texas that accelerates the ability to do office to residential conversions. The sub-market dynamics where River Place is still and have changed a little bit more towards residential versus office. So we're carefully assessing the outcome of at least taking one of those pods and moving into a residential redevelopment process. The first part that we'll be putting some of that on the market to see what other developers in that marketplace value that site at so we can evaluate what we think our appropriate next steps are.
Dylan Brzezinski
Analyst, Green Street
That's helpful. And then maybe just, yeah, no, that's extremely helpful, Jerry. I appreciate that. Maybe just one last one. Thinking about the solid execution and the successful execution of the disposition plan in 26, I mean, how do you sort of think about, you know, the portfolio today? Do you feel like you still have, you know, large percentage of not what you would deem non-core assets? And then how should we sort of think about potential additional proceeds over the next, call it two, three, four quarters?
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, I think obviously we're not announcing anything relative to 27 at this point, but as Tom and I both touched on, we do anticipate about another $200 million, maybe more, in sales next year. Some of those will be in-market assets. Some of those will be in what we consider to be some of our non-core markets. Some of that may frankly be land parcels. We're taking a hard look at our land inventory to figure out what parcels we want to liquidate and more effectively deploy that capital. One of the interesting things is given the capital market volatility, it's really given us an opportunity to take a look at where we want to sell assets. and then how we use those proceeds as we have thus far in 26 to really reduce leverage, reduce our forward capital calls and improve financial flexibility.
Dylan Brzezinski
Analyst, Green Street
Great. Thanks for the time, Gerard.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. Thank you. And as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes in line of Michael Lewis from Intuit Securities. Your question, please.
Michael Lewis
Analyst, Intuit Securities
Thank you. I was just going to ask any additional details or color regarding progress on the 2027 lease expirations other than IBM, obviously, which we know about. And, you know, excluding IBM, do you expect occupancy to move up next year or are there other pockets of downtime in the portfolio?
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, we, Michael, thanks for the question. We are very excited actively going out into our forward maturity curve for both 27, 28, and 29, looking to kind of get some early renewals done across our portfolio. We've been successful in getting a couple done this quarter and have a few underway. And one of our objectives is to really minimize that rollover, particularly in 28, 29, down to the levels we were experiencing in 25 and 26. And we think the market's constructive for that business approach. There's clearly a recognition by both our customer base, both existing and prospective, as well as the brokerage community that there is an increasing dearth of really high-quality, well-run, good landlord space in our key markets. We're using that to our maximum advantage. So I think generally speaking, from a business plan standpoint, we are moving very expeditiously on all of those Ford renewals. And we do expect to be able to further de-risk our operating portfolio over the next several quarters. I mean, Tom, do you have anything to add to that?
Tom Wirth
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Michael, as we look at 27, again, putting aside IBM, as you asked, I think we will see some absorption, continued absorption next year, as Jerry mentioned. We only have two tenants in the portfolio over 30,000 square feet that are expiring next year, and we think both of those tenants will renew. And then you go down below 30,000 on other tenants that, closer to their renewal date, are going to start talking. with them, which we are now, but it's fairly low in terms of any other large tenants expiring in 2027.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
I'm sorry, Michael. The dynamics are actually improving significantly just in terms of when we take a look really at CBD, University City, and particularly Radnor, we think there's room to get early renewals done there and accelerate the absorption of some of our existing vacancies.
Michael Lewis
Analyst, Intuit Securities
Okay, I appreciate that. And then for my second question, you know, you mentioned the $200 million of potential dispositions next year. I guess I'm going to ask about pricing, right? The 4.7% cap rate on the dispositions, obviously you have one large property, 3151, you know, basically at zero, and you had Solaris in there. Is there any more color you could give on, you know, what's happening to office cap rates for stabilized assets? given the change in the cost of capital?
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, great question. And actually, let me amplify. If you would exclude 3151 from our calculation of cap rates, the remaining property sold right around our projected mid-8 cap rate. Some lower, a little bit higher, but blended was about in the mid-8s. So the last 30, 60 days with interest rate volatility, the new inflation numbers. I think it's certainly at least short term change dynamics. So we were really happy, Michael, to get all of our sales done and locked away before all this increased market volatility. Look, the reality is that as debt costs go up, it has a corresponding impact on pricing. So as we start to look at what our sales program will be for 2027, we're going to stay very close to what we're hearing back from the investment market on both the timing and composition of those sales. We're certainly very mindful that when we sell a property, We lose income, and I think that the success this year of being able to sell on a blended basis properties well below the cost of debt that we repurchased was very additive to our balance sheet and to our income stream. I think we're going to be taking a hard look at that same metric of being applied in 2027 as well. Thank you.
Tom Wirth
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Thanks, Mike.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Menace Ebica from Evercore ISI. Your question, please.
Menace Ebica
Analyst, Evercore ISI
Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Could you expand on your commentary around the tenant demand for the IBM buildings? Give some color maybe on what type of tenants are looking there, if there are current existing tenants in the market expanding or new to the market tenants? And I'm just curious about the economics you kind of target for those VDEFs.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, thank you for the question. The pipeline, as I mentioned, is about 1.5 million square feet. Those size tenants range from a low of 20,000 to 30,000 square feet up to several hundred thousand square feet. It's actually a fairly good mix between technology and financial service companies. Most of the tenants are in market. I'll use the term market being all of Austin. and a number looking for expansion or consolidation opportunities. As I alluded to a few moments ago, we are, I think, beginning to reap the marketing benefits of access to this train station. That employee mobility, traffic congestion, affordable housing have all been issues that have really risen to the fore in Austin. and I think Uptown ATX, given its location in the Northwest, but also proximity to the far northern suburbs and easy access to downtown, I think really creates a very valuable marketing platform for us. As I mentioned on the previous calls, we're planning to deliver these buildings somewhere in the mid eights to 9% return on cost. and we'll really only proceed with the planning and the execution once we get a much higher level of visibility and leases done with some of these prospects. But we think that that's a good runway for us over the next couple of years. I mean, certainly as we take a look at the IBM role and the income, that $11 million or so we'll lose in income next year, we're certainly very mindful of how we start to replace that revenue stream while at the same time, building a very effective neighborhood at one uptown that will deliver longer-term value for us.
Menace Ebica
Analyst, Evercore ISI
Got it. I appreciate it. Thank you. And maybe the quick follow-up just on whether that high demand that you've been seeing in that submarket has already resulted in some interest for future phases of ATX, for example, Phase B or anything else, and how that kind of triangulates with your thoughts on just like general capital allocation and deleveraging.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, look, I think that we continue to see a high level of broad-based activity in that marketplace. And as you know, from our previous calls, you know, we do have planning underway for Block B and D. Block B and D are primarily retail and multifamily with potentially a hospitality component. While we're going through the planning processes, there's no desire on our part to proceed with those until there's firm lease commitments, firm financial commitments, and it layers very nicely into our overall balance sheet strategy. So right now we're planning. The approval process down there can be a bit protracted, getting some of those pieces pulled together. But from a capital deployment standpoint, what we're seeing in the intermediate term is moving forward the renovation of the 900 series building subject to pre-leasing. And then we'll see what the capital market conditions present to us as we think about any other future phases. Got it. Thank you. Thank you.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes to the line of Upal Rana from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your question, please.
Upal Rana
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets
Great, thanks for taking my question. Gerard, maybe you can talk a little bit about your decision to sell 3151 Market. You know, last quarter you mentioned negotiating with a multi-floor tenant at the property, but, you know, ultimately you decided to sell. So any call there would be helpful, you know, especially on life science, leasing dynamics, and the Philadelphia CBD would be helpful. Thank you.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Thank you for the question. Look, on 3151, you know, our goal was to deliver a very high-quality building that would be very additive to – both our portfolio and to our Schuylkill Yards neighborhood. Clearly the life-size market changed since we commenced construction of that project, where demand drivers are still there, but they're much more muted than the demand levels were several years ago. And as a consequence of that, as you know, about a year or so ago, we pivoted to kind of a mixed life-size office leasing strategy. and we were getting traction on that. I think the decision for us came down to this. We had the ability through that building to bring a Fortune 500 company with over 2,000 employees as a base to Schuylkill Yards and to further cement Schuylkill Yards as the place to be with mass transit access in the city. When we took a look at the timeline to lease up the balance of that building, and as Tom and I both touched on the $80 million or so future capital commitment, to deliver a building, that will yield in the mid-7% range to us. The capital markets actually presented an amazing opportunity for us to sell that building, again, bring a big employment base into the city, into Schuylkill Yards, eliminate that forward capital spend, obviate the lag time to get income in place, and sell that property and buy back bonds at over an 8% yield. So from our perspective, it was really a financial decision to say we can generate significant liquidity generate proceeds, immediately redeploy those proceeds back into buying back higher-priced debt, and that higher-priced debt was yielding more on retirement to us than the stabilized return on the property. So it was a challenging real estate decision because we felt it could create some great value there, but from a financial planning standpoint, given the current capital marketing conditions, and our penultimate goal to get to investment grade metrics, it was an easy decision.
Upal Rana
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets
Got it. That was really helpful. Thank you. And then, you know, last one for me would be just on the dividend. You know, with the full year impact of all the dispositions you've done and plan to do, you know, as well as the idea to move out next year, you know, how are you assessing the dividend coverage today? I guess how much lease commencements need to come online and interest savings need to occur to support the current payout. Thank you.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Yeah, you know, we're going through our 27 planning process right now. and certainly from our perspective, as we're looking at the, you know, the dividend coverage is higher than we want it to be at the beginning of the year. We target between 70 and 90%. We frankly had, we're a lot more successful in getting a lot of renewals done that generated the need for additional revenue maintaining CapEx, which kind of drove that percentage up. So we're going to, so Paul, we're going to take a hard look at that run rate. take a hard look at what our overall, the net impact of our interest rate savings is versus what we project the absorption to be in 2027 impacted by the IBM rollout. Then we'll make a decision. We review that every quarter with the board. You know, right now we're feeling very good about where the dividend is. We're certainly hoping that the stock price recovers so the dividend yield goes down. But that's a source of capital that's always on the table as we review our business plan and business plan progression with the board on a quarterly basis.
Upal Rana
Analyst, KeyBank Capital Markets
Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Jerry Sweeney for any further remarks.
Jerry Sweeney
President and CEO
Great, Jonathan, thanks for your help today, and thank you all for participating in our third quarter conference call. We wish you the best as we head into the end of the year and the holiday season, and look forward to providing an update on our 27 business plan early next year. Thank you very much.
Operator
Conference Call Operator
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.