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Centuri Holdings, Inc. Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Conference Operator
Operator
Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Century Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Nathan Tetlow, Vice President, Investor Relations. Nathan, please go ahead.
Nathan Tetlow
Vice President, Investor Relations
Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Today we issued and posted to Century Holdings' website our third quarter earnings release and investor presentation. Please note that on today's call, we will address certain factors that may impact this year's earnings and provide some longer-term guidance. Some of the information that will be discussed today contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. These statements are as of today's date. and based on management's assumptions and are subject to several risks and uncertainties, including uncertainties surrounding the impacts of future economic conditions and regulatory approvals. A cautionary note, as well as a note regarding non-GAAP measures, is included in today's press release in the investor presentation and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which we encourage you to review. also provided our reconciliations of our non-GAAP measures to related GAAP measures. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from statements made today. We caution against placing undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, and we assume no obligation to update any such statement except as required by law. Also, given the increased scale of our business over the last year and in order to simplify reporting, we are no longer presenting the non-GAAP measures of base revenue and base gross profit, which were measures that adjusted for storm restoration work. Today's call is being webcast live and will be available for replay in the investor relations section of our website shortly after the completion of this call. On today's call, we have Chris Brown, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kelly Youngblood, Chief Financial Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Chris.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Ned, and thank you, everyone, for joining our first quarter earnings call. We're extremely proud to have delivered record quarterly revenue of $1.2 billion and record quarterly gross profit of $113 million. Adjusted net income for the quarter was $42 million, More than double the 17 million we reported a year ago. This is remarkable top line and growth and profit growth and reflects the dedication of our teams across the US and Canada. Let's start with our third quarter operating performance, which I believe demonstrates the progress we've made across the organization and the benefits of the investments we made earlier in this year. As we transitioned during the first half of 2026, we invested to build greater scale and capacity across the business, including meaningful additions to our workforce. We expected those investments to begin translating into stronger productivity and improved operating efficiency as those employees became fully integrated into our operations, which is exactly what happened in the third quarter. In addition to leveraging the benefits of scale and capacity, we've been focused on driving contract pricing to reflect market cost escalation, including fuel and the cost of fleet. This effort began earlier in the year with new bid work, new MSAs, and MSA renewals, all reflecting updated pricing and market conditions. In addition, all 4.8 billion of outstanding bids including 2 billion of expected renewals by year end reflect updated pricing. By this time next year, we expect the vast majority of our backlog to reflect the updated market pricing. In terms of results, we delivered record quarterly revenue while at the same time driving meaningful improvement in profitability, which led to record quarterly gross profit. Our gross profit margin increased to 9.5% in the third quarter, but from 7.2% in the second quarter. The progress was particularly evident in U.S. gas, where our workforce expansion was the most significant. Gross profit margin in U.S. gas increased to 8.2% from 4.2% in the second quarter. In terms of incremental margins, We achieved a 10.4% incremental gross profit margin on a $342 million year-over-year revenue increase. Gross profit margin, US Gas gross profit margin, and incremental gross profit margin all exceeded expectations and prior external communications. We've been focused on building a more scalable and sustainable Operating Platform that can support the level of demand we see across our rent markets and allow us to grow the business while continuing to improve profitability. There is more work ahead, but the third quarter represents an important step towards and gives us increased confidence in the earnings power of our business. As we continue executing our Vision One Century strategy, our focus remains on translating strong customer demand and revenue growth into higher productivity, greater operating efficiency, and ultimately stronger margins and cash flow over time. And now for the commercial update. Q3 was an exceptionally active quarter across our core and adjacent end markets. Third quarter bookings were approximately 730 million, bringing our year-to-date bookings to approximately 2.9 billion, and our outstanding bids more than doubled in the quarter to $4.8 billion. This is up from $2.5 billion at the end of the second quarter of 2026. The majority of these bids, as expected, are within our electrical segment. And even so far in the fourth quarter, we've booked approximately $275 million split evenly between bid work and MSAs. We booked nearly 100 million in MSA renewals and approximately 185 million between new MSAs and growth from existing MSAs, the mix being about 60% from the electric end market customers and 40% from our gas customers. Demand for our core MSA work, including expanded scopes of work, remains extremely strong. In terms of bid work, we booked approximately 445 million during the quarter, which included the third phase of a natural gas infrastructure project and several electric transmission awards, each in the 10 to $20 million project size range. Our backlog was up 5% from prior year and now stands at approximately 6.2 billion. And even more notable is that our opportunity pipeline continues to expand and now sits at approximately 19 billion. of 46% from last year, demonstrating the additional strength of our rent markets and our ability to position century for future profitable growth. Included within our $4.8 billion of outstanding bids is approximately $2 billion of emissary renewals, which we expect to renew by the end of the year. This is higher than our previous expectation as discussions with customers are leading to increased scope to work Longer contract periods. When we add in the projected bid work awards, we also see our book-to-bill ratio for 2026 of at least 1.3 times, which is exceeding the target earlier communicated at 1.2 times. Looking ahead, we now have over 3.7 billion of revenue coverage for 2027, which combined with our pipeline gives us visibility to mid-teens percentage revenue growth for next year, 2027. Our outlook is supported by durable investment across North American utility infrastructure markets. U.S. investor-owned electric utilities are expected to invest approximately $1.4 trillion from 26 through 2030, of which over 50% is dedicated to modernization, resiliency, reliability, and grid harmony. This end market is our core electric business. At the same time, replacement of aging gas infrastructure remains a long-term, safety-driven priority, with approximately 45% of the gas distribution made in service lines being over 35 years old or of unknown origin. AGA estimates that natural gas utilities are investing about $37 billion each year to enhance the safety of distribution and transmission lines. Together, increasing power demand, grid modernization, population migration, and the continued replacement of aging infrastructure are supporting sustained investment across centuries core electric and gas markets. As we further build upon our efficient one century delivery model, our business remains strong regardless of the political environment. And we continue to grow our business and capabilities to serve our customers and deliver affordable solutions. Before turning the call over to Kelly, I'd like to briefly discuss data centers, particularly given the significant amount of market attention data centers are receiving. As Century, as we've said many times before, we've taken a disciplined approach to what we include in our opportunity pipeline and within our forecasts. Any data center project opportunity must have a defined scope of work with a clear estimate of the contract value and margin, and we must have a solid understanding of the customer and the project must have committed funding. Specific to data centers, by the time we enter the active bidding stage, the projects are generally well advanced and fully permitted with design and engineering substantially complete and in many cases, initial civil work complete and construction already underway. In short, the data center projects that we evaluate are largely de-risked by the time we start investing time or resources into formally bidding for the opportunity. Data centers remain an attractive opportunity for Century, allowing us to deploy our existing capabilities into a growing end market. To date, though, we have booked approximately 370 million of data center work in aggregate, with approximately 200 million remaining in backlog. Whilst meaningful, We continue to believe that data center work will not exceed the 10% of our overall annual revenue. I'll now turn over to Kelly to discuss the financial results. Kelly.
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Chris, and thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. Third quarter 2026 consolidated revenues totaled $1.2 billion, a new quarterly record, and was a 40% increase compared to Q3 of 2025. Consolidated gross profit was $113 million, Also being a quarterly record, a gross margin was 9.5% in the quarter. The incremental gross profit margin compared to last year was 10.4% for the quarter. Net income attributable to common stock in the third quarter was $27 million, or $0.27 per share, compared to net income attributable to common stock of $2 million, or $0.02, on a per share basis in the same period last year. In the third quarter, adjusted EBIT was $73 million, 79% higher year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA was $108 million, a 44% increase over the same period last year. Adjusted net income in the third quarter came in at $42 million, or 42 cents, on a per-share basis, compared to $17 million, or 19 cents per share, in the prior year period. Now to our segment. U.S. gas revenue was $576 million, an increase of 40% compared to the prior year. This growth was driven by increased bid work and MSA volumes, demonstrating the underlying strength of our customer relationships and market position. Gross profit margin was 8.2% in the quarter, up from 7.7% last year, and an increase of 400 basis points sequentially compared to last quarter. As previously mentioned, the improvement in third quarter margins for U.S. gas was primarily driven by the scale and capacity investments made earlier in the year, which translated into higher productivity along with the initial benefits of our contract pricing initiatives. Canadian operations revenue was $98 million, up nearly 33% from prior year period, primarily from the inclusion of the Connect acquisition. Operational performance in this segment remains strong against the backdrop of sustained favorable demand as evidenced by the 19.6% gross profit margin in the quarter. Union Electric revenues $354 million, an increase of 65% year-over-year, driven by strong growth within our electric and industrial projects in addition to the inclusion of J.J. White, which joined Century at the end of July 2026. Gross profit margin for the union electric segment was 8.9% in the third quarter. Non-union electric revenue in the third quarter was $175 billion, an increase of 18% year over year. This growth was driven by higher storm work in the current year and increased MSA activity. Gross profit margin in the non-union electric segment was 8.7% in the current period compared to 7.1% in the prior year period. Now turning to our cash flow and balance sheet. Net cash used in operating activities during the third quarter was $28 million and free cash flow was a negative $30 million. We expect cash collections to accelerate in the fourth quarter as we begin converting the recent revenue growth into cash. Our current full year free cash flow expectation is between $25 to $50 million down from our prior estimate and driven by the higher working capital requirements as revenue growth has consistently exceeded forecast. However, it's noteworthy to clarify that any shortfall in free cash flow this year is simply a timing issue and will translate into higher cash flow generation for 2027. We ended the quarter with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 2.6 times, which was down from the 3.8 times a year ago. We forecast net debt to adjusted EBITDA to be in the low two times range by year end. Finally, turning to our outlook. As outlined in today's earnings release, we have updated our full year 2026 guidance, including revenue expected to range between 3.8 and 3.9 billion, adjusted gross profit of 305 to 315 million, adjusted EBITDA of 290 to 300 million, adjusted net income of 80 to 90 million, and net capex of 60 to 70 million. Of note, the guidance assumes no contributions for storm work in the fourth quarter. Looking ahead, and as Chris highlighted, our revenue coverage for 2027 outstanding bids and opportunity pipeline gives us confidence in the mid-teens revenue growth for 2027 which is expected to put us above 4.4 billion in revenue in 2027. In addition, we expect the top line growth to be accompanied by continued margin expansion. We are aiming to achieve an overall gross profit margin of 8.5 to 9% in 2027, which is aligned with our near-term target incremental gross profit margins of 12 to 15%. Relative to the 2029 targets established earlier this year, Our preliminary 2027 outlook has us outpacing on both revenue and gross profit growth. I'll now turn it back to Chris to wrap up our prepared remarks.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Chris? Thank you, Kelly. As we close, I want to reiterate our confidence in the opportunities ahead of us. Our core business remains anchored by long-term MSA agreements supporting our utility customer sustainable capital programs. Beyond the continued improvement in the business, we remain focused on executing against the margin expansion opportunity we've consistently outlined, reducing seasonality, increased pricing to reflect cost escalation, growing the mix of bid work, and advancing operational excellence, particularly within our U.S. gas business. We are making tangible progress across each of these areas. We are pursuing and securing higher margin work achieving pricing improvements to reflect the market across our portfolio, driving additional activity into warmer geographies to improve seasonality, and using new operational tools to identify margin opportunities at the customer scope of work and geographic levels. We're encouraged by the progress we have seen across the organization and remain confident in our ability to drive margins higher as we move into 2027 and beyond. We appreciate everybody's time and interest today. Operator, let's begin the Q&A.
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We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimal sound quality. If you're muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question is from the line of Manesh Somia from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Manesh Somia
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Thank you. Congrats, Chris, Kelly, Nate. Good job. A couple of questions. Chris, you mentioned that the incremental in the quarter was 10.4%. I was hoping to get that incremental excluding diesel fuel cost pass-throughs.
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, this is Kelly. I'll take the first part of this, and Chris can certainly chime in. Listen, we had guided on the last phone call that the quarterly impact, the net impact of fuel would be approximately $5 million. And that's almost exactly where we ended up for the quarter. And we've been pushing through the additional cost of fuel, additional cost related to our fleet transition to more leasing. All of these items, we've been very successful in pushing that cost into our pricing with customers. As Chris pointed out in the prepared remarks, there's even another $2 billion worth of contracts being renegotiated before the end of the year. Those will all be incorporating the higher cost that we've had from fuel and other items. And so, you know, as far as the incrementals, you know, we're really going to stop quantifying, I think, at this point, the absolute dollar value of fuel. We've incorporated that into our guidance going forward. You know, the 10.4% we had this quarter, very much stronger than what we had in Q2. And if you look at our implied guidance for 2027, That shows incremental margins are going to be definitely within that 12% to 15% range that we talked about on the phone call. So I think that's really the recap, Chris. I don't know if you have anything else to add. No, I don't think so. I have Kelly.
Manesh Somia
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Yeah, I mean, listen, the performance obviously is very strong, no doubt about that. But I just wanted to sort of understand that math, but I appreciate it. I guess maybe Kelly, you might have alluded to this, that some of the 29 targets you're running ahead of the margin expectations. Maybe a question for Chris as to, you know, clearly we're seeing momentum in U.S. gas. Perhaps if you can just kind of frame that logic for us for 27 and I guess when would you feel comfortable updating your 29 targets, you know, since obviously you've gathered momentum and execution seems to be on track? Thank you.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Manish, thanks for your question. Look, we, as you know, we've put a lot of effort into defining, again, real-time data of what work we have in backlog, what we have, you know, pipeline and accuracy around. So as I look to next year, we're trending. We've currently got $3.7 billion, as we've said in our scripted notes, of backlog coverage for next year. We think we're trending towards $4 billion by the end of the year. And that's really what's giving us the confidence around the $4.4, $4.5 billion we've alluded to within our commentary. I think as we look at The revenue, we've got a very, very good handle on our pricing and our margin in our system now. So we feel very good about giving you a range of 8.5% to 9% on the margin, which if I look to what we committed to within the 2029 targets, we're about 10%, 12% ahead on the revenue of where we thought we would be. And we're a little bit ahead on where we are on where we said we would be on the margin. So That's really put in the context of where we are against the 29 targets we rolled out in May. To your final question, Manish, is when are we going to refresh the targets? I think it will be commensurate as we close out the budget and the planning for next year and issue next year's guidance in full. That's probably where we would look to give an update on the 2029 targets. I do expect the 2029 targets to be Your next question comes from the line of Justin Hawk from Baird. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Justin Hauck
Analyst, Baird
So thanks for all the color on the call and the details on the award and the outlook and everything. I wanted to ask a little bit about the guidance implied for the fourth quarter. And it looks like your EBITDA guidance, at least, you kind of narrowed the midpoint and implying a little bit lower margin than you had previously. The third quarter was kind of ahead of plan. I don't know if that's just a reflection of lack of storm or maybe you could just talk a little bit about the moving pieces in that. Thank you.
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
You know, great point. Yeah, Q3 obviously a big beat compared to consensus and while we even our own internal budgeting, Q4 looks a little bit like compared to consensus. But if you look at the full second half of the year, we have a beat pretty much across the board. We may be a little bit light on EBITDA margins to your point, and I think that's really more an effect of our change in kind of leasing methodology or having lower capex, so you're not getting the benefit of that depreciation. And if you look, the way we're forecasting that, just to give you a number, if you look at full year 26 versus 25, just this change in methodology is about a 90 basis point impact to our EBITDA margins. But again, when you look at You know, whether revenue, GP, you know, EBITDA, absolute dollars, all the profitability metrics for the full second half of the year, you know, we were above consensus, above what our budget was internally, so we're very happy with that. And then, as we've mentioned, you know, the 27 guidance on top of what we just provided as kind of an end of year for 2026 is going to take us over a $4.4 billion mark, which is above the 2029 expectations that we had laid out earlier in the year.
Justin Hauck
Analyst, Baird
OK, thank you for that. And I guess my second question here, I guess, Chris, for you, but your your pipeline, you're talking about, you know, 40 plus data centers now and the aggregate value is like almost five billion. And last year it was your last quarter. It was twenty five and two billion. So I appreciate your comments on on the election impact. But I guess maybe you could just give a little bit more context of what markets is that coming from? It just is the increase sequentially. Where are you seeing kind of the bulk of that activity? Thank you.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, I mean, the pipeline has increased to 19 billion. I'll give you some headline mix on that. 12 billion of that is on the electric side of which 10 billion is distribution and transmission. So core businesses, seven of the 19 billion sits on the gas side of the business. So that's the overall mix between the two end markets we serve. When it comes to data centers, I think we've only got one data center that we are looking at within my home state here in Texas. The remainder of the data centers are actually in the north. And as I said in my earlier script, we don't assume any data center in our financial forecasts unless it's got funding, unless it's got permitting, unless it's got all of the execution plan defined. We know the customer's got capital in place. So I would say most of the data centers are emanating up in the mid-Atlantic, Midwest, We won't actually just sit in in Texas. That's helpful. Thank you. Thanks for your question.
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Your next question is from the line of Sanjita Jain from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Sanjita Jain
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. One is on the full Q guide. Kelly, you mentioned that there's no storm included in that guide. So I'm wondering if you did any work for Hurricane Isaias, and if so, is that going to be on top of the guide that you've given us?
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Hi, Sangeetha. I'll probably answer that first question, and then Kelly will no doubt maybe add something to it. The answer to your question is yes, we did do storm work at the beginning of October, and yes, that would be additive to what we communicated. within our overall full year guidance. So that's correct. And specifically around Q4, Q4 is a difficult time in many ways to be absolutely accurate in one's forecast. That's why we often take a conservative approach. And why is it difficult? It's hard to determine exactly what customers have got budget exhaustion as we get towards the end of the year. It's also hard to determine which customers have They want us to actually expand and deliver services for. So we kind of don't get a good view on that until probably November, mid-November, even coming back after Thanksgiving. So that's why you see sort of a conservative approach of what we believe we will secure for Q4. It doesn't include storming. Yes, we've had a little bit of storm at the early part of October. I'm not sure what we have this week, but certainly the beginning of October. And if customers As they did last year, choose to allocate more work because they've got surplus budget coming into the year will absolutely help them deliver on those services.
Sanjita Jain
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
Karthik, that's very helpful. Thank you. And then one more on gas margins have obviously done very well. And you've talked about improvements in the operations there. Can you tell us what tools you're putting together to get your electric margins to the same strong levels?
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you. I think we've spoke about it at great length. You know, there's an element of three or four components to driving the gas margins up. There is the seasonality, as you know, last year and the prior year. And historically, we've had a A massive rundown in work that we execute, starting about Thanksgiving, running all the way through to spring break, all the way through the first quarter. We've repositioned the business. We've got more leadership south of the Mason-Dixon line, and actually cross-selling more work into those customers that spend around the year. And as you saw last year, we've cut the $16 million loss down to six, and we've So that's one tool, if you would like to use, which we refer to, which is driving performance through the business development and sales. Secondly is we've now sort of standardized around the way we capture the cost across all of our businesses. And that's allowed us to fundamentally see where there's areas of opportunity to reflect new pricing that reflects current cost of fleet. into the cost of the business. So we're able to see where our pricing, a real granular level, a specific call-off is below where it should be for the current market conditions. So we now have that and we've had that for probably a quarter. And then finally, operational excellence, which often takes a lot longer. We were a roll-up of a number of businesses that really operated as an operating company to a whole core structure. We're now fully integrated in the way we approach the market were becoming fully integrated in how we benchmark and drive performance into the business. So we can see how parts of the gas business perform against other parts of the organization because we've now got tools around specific leading indicators and specific absolute productivity against task level across all 80-something line items within the P&L. So that's the margin improvement productivity tool That's now effective.
Sanjita Jain
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
Thanks so much for the color, Chris.
Zachary Schechtman
Analyst, Wells Fargo
Thanks, Aguita.
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Your next question comes from the line of Zachary Schechtman from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Zachary Schechtman
Analyst, Wells Fargo
Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I'm just wondering, Your next phase of growth, obviously, mid-teens revenue growth next year is very good. Can this next phase of growth avoid another labor ramp, Edwins? Just wondering how fast you can grow without having to re-accelerate headcount growth again.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks for your question, Zach. Yeah, I don't believe adding 1,800 to the headcount in a first half year is likely. I think we'll continue to find new business that needs more resources. But as we get rid of seasonality in the business and we become more linear across the 12 months of the year, I don't foresee that we will have such large ramp ups in any quarter or any half of the year. I think we added about 300 people in the last quarter, give or take, which is significantly less than the 1800 we added in the first half of the year. So I think we're a little bit more normalized around mobilization, purely driven by not just the tools we have in place across the broader group now, but more importantly about the size and scale in the organization and our efforts to mitigate the seasonality and the sudden sharp downturn of people driven by the weather in Thanksgiving through to spring break. So I don't think you're going to see that in the future.
Zachary Schechtman
Analyst, Wells Fargo
Got it. Thank you. And then one follow-up just on data center. I know it's not your main area of focus, but looks like the pipeline that broke from 16 last quarter to 19 this quarter, I think that was all driven by the data center pipeline. Looks like 70 million of awards was picked up in 3Q. Just kind of wondering, like, how quickly those awards turn to revenue and Given the strength and the pipeline build, should we expect a decent acceleration from that 70?
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
We're going to continue, Zach, to be really cautious with data centers, and not just because of all the headlines you read in the news. At the end of the day, we've got a very diligent approach with all of our customers to be sure that if we're good in work, it needs to be funded. We need clarity on scope. We need clarity that it is funded and that we're not going to put resources that ultimately slow down or need to be demobilized. We want consistency, stability in the business. So specifically to the data centers, I think most of the data center work, the 200 million that remains in backlog will burn off next year. I think that's accurate. I doubt much of it will go into 2028. So it's When it comes to other data centers, I mean, clearly the political environment during the course of this year didn't just start yesterday. It started long before that. So we've always been extremely cautious on where we would put capital. And even though they've gone into the pipeline now and we've got vision on exactly whether they're funded and whether they're permitted, we'll continue to be very cautious. So I can't answer a call like this exactly when those bids and opportunities will convert. I just can't. But what I would say to you, if data center A has some risk to it, then maybe that's not a scope of work that we will continue to follow. But if it's got funding and we can see it's going to be permitted, we possibly will. There are lots of other adjacent end markets that we service. And I remind everybody on the call, the people that deliver our services to data centers are the same skills, same capabilities, same contract form that we deliver to other adjacent markets where we see a lot of other activities. So if data centers are not a strong component to deliver margin expansion, there are other markets that will.
Zachary Schechtman
Analyst, Wells Fargo
Understood. Thank you, guys.
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Operator
Your next question is from the line of Kevin Ganey from Thompson Davis. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis
Good morning, Chris, Kelly, Nate. Great quarter, guys. Thank you. I think I wanted to take a look at the acquisition of JJ. You've got about three months, and it looks like it's meaningfully contributing. How's the integration going there, and How do you feel about the targets you set out with for them? And then maybe if you could talk about if you've ran into some cross-selling opportunities thus far.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
So it's Chris, and I'll answer the question and see whether Kelly's got anything to add here. I think JJY, as with the Connect acquisitions in the prior year, has exceeded all of our expectations. I think you'll recall the intention was the operational component of J.J. White was very complementary to our existing union business. And we folded that within the union electric business that's led by Steve Zemaitatis and Riggs Distler. A lot of the integration has already been done. We've been able to integrate a lot of the operational people. The back office, I think, is more or less through its integration. We are actively out in the market together as a one company approach. There's a number of opportunities in the pipeline that we think will convert in the near term. I referred in the script earlier, we've got 4.8 billion of opportunity that we are currently outstanding and are negotiating. That's up from the 2.5 billion in the first quarter. There's four, five hundred million of that that actually is J.J. White related renewals that we expect to win. So I would say J.J. White, I think we closed July 20, has delivered everything we expected it to deliver. The team is great. The leadership is great. The operationals are exceptional. Customer feedback has been fantastic. I think everybody will recall we paid about $62.5 million I just wanted to maybe highlight the
Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis
2 billion of MSA renewals you talked about. Maybe you could talk about whether it's existing customers or if it's and how the pricing flow through that you guys mentioned is working for that.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
I don't want to get into pricing on a call specific about renewals, but they're all renewals, which means they're all existing customers. They're all multi-years. It's 2 billion, clearly not 2 million out of the 4.8 and negotiations with the customers are progressing as we expect them to progress. Customers typically recognize there's been a lot of cost inflation driven by fuel and fleet and we're trying to get that aligned with our overall pricing for the services we offer. I would say that the discussions are going very well.
Kevin Ganey
Analyst, Thompson Davis
Appreciate all the color. Thanks, guys.
Nathan Tetlow
Vice President, Investor Relations
Thank you for the questions.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Lauren Sullivan from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Lauren Sullivan
Analyst, UBS
Hey, good morning. This is Lauren on for Steve Fisher. First, just wanted to ask how you're thinking about the election impact on utility spending and planning and if that's affecting your own planning at all.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you for the question. Look, our business has been around for 150 years. and it's not driven by data center capital programs. Our business is driven by long-term, multi-year MSAs and relationships with public utilities. And look, we're focused on services and projects that support reliability, resiliency, grid hardening, integrity management, modernization on both gas Networks, as well as the grid. So, you know, the critical mass of the work we execute is non-datacenter related. It was all there long before the data center search became the thing that we all wanted to talk about. It doesn't matter who's in the governor's mansion or in the White House. Our services will be needed to deliver on those requirements of reliability, resiliency, good heart, and as well as integrity management across the gas systems. We do drive a focus on opportunity, margin opportunity, and in the adjacent end markets, the data centers are one of them. But as you see, we've only got 200 million of backlogging data centers, and we've maintained that it would never be above the 10%. In fact, I think it'll be less than the 10% of our revenue going forward. So I think the political environment that has changed recently but has slowly been moving in a certain direction during the course of the year will have little to no impact upon us because our business and the services we offer are needed by the ultimate customer and it doesn't matter whether it's a blue or a red leading our political environment.
Lauren Sullivan
Analyst, UBS
Got it. Thank you. And then just my second question is on if you're seeing any more interesting from customers in consolidating their contractor base, and if that creates any opportunity for Accenture to take a larger share. Thank you.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
I think, I don't know how customers really look at it, but what I see as a service provider to our customers is affordability is absolutely crucial, particularly on the gas side. And that affords us an opportunity with our size and scale, as you've seen in our gas margins. And it also translates over to the electric side, where it's more about building our capacity to be able to service customer needs. But I would say that the more scale we can add through people, through fleet and resources, allows us to cross-sell the broader century. It allows us to bring more value to our customers, reduce their costs. and a better return to our shareholders. And the strategy we laid out is within our vision one century and we'll continue to do more of that. And more so, we announced during the quarter, which seems to get forgotten, is we brought in a new head of Greek development and his mission in life is to do exactly that, which is to cross-sell our business, gas, electric, union, non-union, behind the meter power energy transition services and more.
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Your next question comes from the line of Sharif El Sabahi from Bank of America. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Sharif El-Sabahi
Analyst, Bank of America
Hi, good morning. Thank you for the comments on free cash flow. It seems like conversions similar to last year at about 13% at the midpoint of guide. I understand you're expecting an improvement in 2027, but does that improvement get you back to the historical conversion rates of 25% to 30%, or how should we be considering that improvement next year?
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, this is Kelly. I will take that one. Listen, we're still, you know, I know we said that it could be a timing issue of cash going into 2027. We are pushing, you know, we're kind of a full court press right now. trying to get collections in this year so that we get closer back to what we had originally guided to on the cash for the year. So we'll see where we end up the last couple of the months. I'm new to the company, but I've looked over the last couple of years. The trend of the company has been to get a lot of the cash collections during the month of November and December. So we'll see where that ends up. But more specific to your question on the conversion ratio, we've outlined that through 2029, We're targeting to get to a 40% to 50% conversion, and there is nothing at this point that makes me believe that we're going to need to back off on that at all. We're going to continue to progress and increase the percentage, kind of stair-step it up every year between now and 2029.
Sharif El-Sabahi
Analyst, Bank of America
Understood. And looking at the bid work project sizes, it looks like they're up about 38% from third quarter of last year. Is this more of a function of pursuing bigger projects, or is it just that the projects in the pipeline are structurally larger, given what utilities are trying to accomplish?
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
Again, thanks for the question. It goes back to the basic strategy we laid out with everybody in May, which is we want to continue to grow our MSAs, but if we want to have margin expansion and we want to deliver on 15% revenue growth with higher margins, we will need to do more bid work. So the dynamic in the revenue and the dynamic in the margin is all driven by that mix. It really is as simple as that.
Zachary Schechtman
Analyst, Wells Fargo
Understood. Thank you.
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Your last question comes from the line of Manesh Somaya from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Manesh Somia
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Thank you again. Chris, obviously, the organic growth is quite strong. I was hoping to get some clarity on how you guys are thinking about inorganic growth. You know, what are sort of the potential opportunities that you are seeing out there that could make sense and which of the segments would those fit in? And then secondly, Chris, with obviously the share markets in dislocation, your own shares at a very sort of attractive level, one would say. How do you guys think about share buybacks? How is the board thinking about capital allocation? If you can also give us some sense of how those discussions are being thought about. Thank you.
Chris Brown
President and Chief Executive Officer
I'll cover the M&A market, then I'll ask Kelly to jump in on the share buyback and capital allocation priorities. Our focus on M&A, we look at M&A in support of our Vision 1 strategy, which we've consistently rolled out. And we are looking to invest in businesses that are mainly tuck-in acquisitions that unlock more and more opportunities that look like Connect and JJ White that will untap positioning in the market with customers to drive the electric transmission and distribution. You could find a situation, and again, I'll repeat what I've said on prior calls with many, you know, you could find opportunities in the south of the country that has got both gas and electric that wouldn't be very willing to look at.
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
So that's what I would say on M&A, capital allocation. Yeah, in terms of capital allocation, I think we've said this at recent conferences. Our primary focus right now is de-levering the balance sheet, supporting the organic growth opportunities that we have. Chris just talked about evaluating tuck-in M&A opportunities, which we will continue to do. But specific to buybacks or dividends, You know, I think it, you know, our priority right now is just to focus on the organic growth we have and funding that and getting our leverage ratio lower. You know, we talked about in our guidance, we think we'll be in the low twos. Ideally, we'd like to get that leverage ratio below two times. You know, that may periodically go back to above two, depending on M&A opportunities. But, you know, we always want to see a track record of that kind of, you know, heading back down below two times. So that's really the priorities for the moment. Give us some more time, let us get the leverage ratio down, and then maybe we'll have that discussion. But right now, the timing's just not right for us.
Manesh Somia
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
And just, Kelly, as a follow-up, as you think about leverage, what do you think is the ideal target leverage for the company? When you say less than two times, is it one and a half?
Kelly Youngblood
Chief Financial Officer
Well, listen, I'm a conservative accountant, conservative CFO, the lower the better, right? But definitely below two times. I think if we were ranging between one and a half to two times, that's a very healthy place to be for our company. And as I said, you know, we may periodically go above that with M&A that we're doing, but we would always like to see that path back to a more normalized, you know, less than two, but... But yeah, that's kind of the range we're thinking about, the lower the better, but I think that's kind of the way we're thinking about it.
Manesh Somia
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald
Okay, great. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you, Manish.
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We've reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Nathan for closing remarks.
Nathan Tetlow
Vice President, Investor Relations
Thank you, everyone, for joining today, and thank you for your interest and century. Please feel free to follow up with me with any questions and that concludes today's call.
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