Welcome to OET's third quarter 2026 financial results presentation. Aristidis Alafouzos, CEO and Iraklis Sbarounis, CFO of Okeanis Eco Tankers will take you through the presentation. They will be pleased to address any questions raised at the end of the call. Matters that are forward-looking in nature will be discussed and actual results may differ from the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements. Please read through the relevant disclaimer on slide two. I'd like to advise you that this session is being recorded. Aristidis will begin the presentation now.

Good afternoon and thank you for taking the time to join our call. I'm going to start on slide 4, instead of Iraklis, as usual, because it is a slide we wanted to prepare for a long time, but I did not expect to show it this quickly. On our last poll, I had said that I hoped by the end of the year we would have returned over $1 billion to our shareholders since our inception. With the dividend we announced yesterday, we did it by Q3. When we listed in 2018, the investor community was hesitant about another Greek shipping company. Together with our initial investors who showed trust in us, three of whom are still on our board today, we have established a track record to be proud of. I would like to think investors now see OET as a consistent and reliable steward of their capital and driven to outperformance competition. We listed in 2018 with a market cap of $225 million. Since then, we have paid out more than 4.4 times that in dividends. More than half of that billion has come this year alone. Q3 was the strongest quarter in our history, and it's the third record quarter in a row. Adjusted EPS was $7.67 for the quarter and $15.98 for the nine months. The board declared a dividend of $7 per share. It is our 18th consecutive distribution and 91% of our reported net income. To put that in context, that one dividend is about $273 million, which is more than the whole company was worth when we listed. 2026 has not been an easy year to operate tankers. Our crews and our technical manager, Guy Claude, have kept the ships working through all of it with many challenges. and I wanted to thank them before we get into the numbers. Part of OET's ability to outperform is the quality of our technical manager. Whether in the Atlantic, the Black Sea or in the Middle East, our crews have serviced our trades with professionalism and dedication that is to be admired. Iraklis will take you through the financials and then I will come back for the commercial and market update. Iraklis, over to you.

Thank you, Steve. I'm pleased to go through our third quarter earnings, a quarter that sets another record in our history. We achieved fleet-wide time charter equivalent of about $209,000 per vessel per day. That's $269,000 per day on our spot and $260,000 on operating VSEC days and $167,000 on our Suez Max operating days, all being spots. We report time charter equivalent revenue of $338 million Adjusted EBITDA of $320 million, adjusted net profit of $299 million, and adjusted EPS of $7.67. Our board declared an 18th consecutive quarterly dividend of $7 per share. This represents more than 91% of our reported and adjusted net income. including this one, over the last four quarters, we have distributed $15.80 per share. Backward looking, that's close to 20% yield against our current share price on top of the share price appreciation over the same period. On slide six, we show the detail of our income statement for the quarter and nine month period. TC revenue through September stood at almost $740 million. EBITDA was over $680 million. and net income was almost $620 million or $16 per share. Moving on to slide seven and our balance sheet. At quarter end, we had $233 million of cash. Our restricted cash figure as of September 30th includes an amount of approximately $67 million. We have deposited on short term under certain of our loan facilities, which have the features that reduce the interest paid We may roll forward such cash characterized as restricted or a different amount on a short-term basis, depending on our cash flow needs and applicable rates. Our balance sheet debt was $754 million, reflecting the drawdown for the acquisition of the nation's boost in early July. Our book leverage stands at 35% while our market adjusted net LTV basis market estimates on our assets and end of quarter cash balance is now below 20%. Slide eight, looking at our fleet. With the addition of the initial solution early July, we have a fully delivered fleet of eight VLCCs and 10 shoes maxes with an average age of 5.8 years. From a CapEx perspective, the Milos successfully underwent its 10-year survey at the end of the third quarter, beginning of the fourth quarter. Slide nine, moving on to our capital structure. With the delivery of the Nisos Vos, our full financing and refinancing cycle has been effective since the beginning of the quarter. The benefits are clearly visible every quarter with the improvement of our interest expense figures. On the Nisos Kithnos, we have agreed with our financier that effective December of this year, and through the maturity of the loan in 2030, the loan will bear a margin of 115 basis points, continuing the improvement in our capital structure with our weighted average interest costs performing for that adjustment having been reduced to 146 basis points over software. On slide 10, we show this exercise only for the NISOS PIPERI and NISOS ERIFO pull-up. I was expecting to run the exercises again in a few months, adding the Nisos Tigane and Nisos Bouche with at least a couple of quarters under their trading belts. But the numbers are simply extraordinary, so I was tempted to update the slide this quarter. The Nisos Piperi and the Nisos Serifopoula were delivered to us in January, the Nisos Tigane in May, and the Nisos Bouche in July. So with, on average, call it a little over half a year of operations between the four vessels, The value creation now exceeds half a billion dollars. The asset value increase pillar, the third one on the graph, is very straightforward. We bought these vessels at between 97 and 99 million dollars each. These are now valued at over 170 million. Unrealized, but with a direct impact on our NAV and subsequently on our stock price. It's an 80% uplift on an enterprise value basis and close to 150% uplift against the equity put on the vessels. What's more interesting, in my view, is the second pillar. Within an average half a year, they have each generated between $20 and $60 million of free cash flow, or $160 million on aggregate. The nominal equity that was put in these vessels was a little over $210 million. Remember, we put $45 million of bank debt on each one. On that basis, over three-quarters of the equity has already been returned back. Once you add the NAV benefit, that's the first pillar on the graph, due to the arbitrage of raising a creative stock to fund these transactions. Almost the entire equity put into these vessels, and this is realized value, has been paid down. Timing was obviously more than opportune, but we have set up a platform in a way that gives us the ability to precisely take advantage of such opportunities and generate such results. I will now turn it back to Aristidis for the commercial market.

Thank you, Iraklis. And about the previous slide, By the end of the year, I assume that all the equity will be entirely paid back on those four ships. So we're pretty happy with that. Now, looking at slide 12 on the commercial performance in Q3, our fleet YTC for the quarter was $209,000 per day. Our spot VLCCs earned $270,000 per day. And our service maxes earned $166,000 per day. Including the time charter days, total VLCC earnings were $260,000 per day and fleet utilization was 98%. Q3 is normally the weakest quarter of the year. This one beat Q2, which was already a record. When we spoke in August, we had fixed 48% of our VLCC spot days at about $207,000 and 42% of our Suezmax days at $133,000. We finished at $269,000 and $166,000 a day. So everything we fixed after that call was done well above those levels. The market kept climbing through August and September, and we had the days open to catch higher earnings. In August of Q3, we converted some spot voyages on the VLCCs into short time charters that will last until February of 2027. at a blended rate of $450,000 a day. This materially helped our Q3 numbers as the rate was far above the spot market, but then slightly underperformed in Q4 as rates rocketed higher. Today, spot rates are around $350,000 for VLCC, while a Suez Max is between $150,000 and $200,000 a day. Suez Max utilization was 97%, and as we announced earlier, Nisosipnos was hit by a drone on July 30th while loading at CBC terminal, loading Kazaki crew. Most importantly, nobody on board was hurt. The incident damaged the cargo lines, cargo cranes, and electrical cabling. The repair took over a month, but the vessel had loss of hire insurance to cover the lost time, as well as the normal insurance to cover the damages. Moving to slide 13 and our guidance for Q4, I have looked at these numbers many times and I still find them hard to believe. On the VLCCs, we have fixed 48% of our available spot days at $688,000 per day. We also have 509 time charter days at an average of $388,000 per day. That is 75% of our VLCC days for the court. On the Suez Maxis, we have fixed 60% of our spot days at $410,000 per day. Across the fleet, that is 627 spot days at an average of $447,700 per day. 71% of our fleet for Q4 are covered at an average of $420,000 per day. That is roughly $480 million on the days already covered. With 29% of the quarters still open, our TC revenue for the whole quarter of Q3 was $338 million, and Q3 was a record. Suez maxes are at 99% utilization, while VLCC is guided at 93%, which is 53 days off hire. One line on what that is, Nisa Sanafi suffered engine damage while laid in near South Africa. She limped slowly to Oman, where we try and ship the cargo, and the vessel will begin repairs there and be completed by the end of December. A word of caution on the open days. Rates have come off the peak we saw earlier in October and I would not take the fixed spot numbers and multiply them across the rest of the quarter. I do expect the market to rebound as we go deeper into Q4 though. We have 458 days still to fix and we will fix them in the market we find. That can work for us or against us as we have seen more than once this year. Over the past weeks, The markets have had a huge correction, but we are still earning historically high earnings after such a steep sell-off. Last year, the market also sold off late in Q4 and roared back in January. The market is volatile, but the underlying inefficiencies remain. I believe the bottom has been found on crude tanker freight, and with good cargo inquiry, we'll see rates push back up. Moving on to slide 14. This is the slide that we use every quarter. And I like it more every time. This was a market that was available to every owner. Based on the peers who have reported so far, our spot earnings in Q3 were about 70% above the peer average on VLCCs and 60% above on the Suez Maxis. Let that sink in again, 70% on the VLCCs and 60% on the Suez Maxis. On the Q4 days we've picked so far, we're about 30% higher on the BLCCs and close to 50% on the Suez Maxis. If we look at the blended earnings profile across Q3 and Q4, including both spot and time charter, the outperformance is even more pronounced. Based on peers that have reported so far, our VLCC rates were approximately 84% above the peer average in Q3 and around 61% on Q4, days fixed to date. On the SUS maxes, we're approximately 68% above the peer average in Q3 and around 49% above in Q4. Taken together across Q3 and Q4, our blended earnings are more than 1.5 times the peer average in both asset classes. At these rate levels, the percentage matters less than the dollars. Since Q4 2019, we have generated about 450 million of outperformance against the average of our peers. Three months ago, that number was 341 million. So we added about 117 million in one quarter alone. If our fleet had earned the peer average in Q3, our EPS would have been about $3 lower. To give that some scale, $450 million is twice the market cap we listed with, and that is the only difference between us and the average. It is split fairly evenly. About $247 million have come from the VLCCs and about $205 million from the Suezmaxs. That is close to $17,500 a day above the peer average on every VLCC and Suezmax spot day for seven years. It is the same ships and the same people every quarter. A modern Eco Scrubber fitted fleet, a chartering team that is prepared to take a view, and a technical manager that keeps the ships approved and available when the cargo is there. Other than the Anafi. On slide 15, the order. I'm not going to pretend it's small. The VLCC order book is over 32% of the fleet, and the Suezmax order book is around 30%. which is about, of which about three points are shuttle tankers that do not compete with us. And those are big numbers and they're a real issue for the back end of the decade. But look at when the ships arrive. For the rest of 26, it is a half a percent of the BLCC and 1% of the Suezmax fleet. Next year it is around 7% for both. The heavy years are 28 and 29 at 9 and 11% a year. Now look at the top half of the page. Today, 22% of the BLCC fleet is over 20 years old, and 48% is over 15 years old. By 2028, those numbers are 29% and 56%, and by 2030, they are 41% and 61%. The Suezmax picture is also the same. I will be straight about one thing. In a market like this, nobody scrubs a ship. The old ships are trading and earning, albeit inefficiently. But a 20 year old BLCC does not get approved for almost all the cargoes we like to carry. A lot of them are in sanctioned trades and they likely do not come back to our market. Right now, in my view, the inefficiency in the system is absorbing more capacity than the yards will deliver over the next years. So our view has not changed. The order book is a real consideration to look into for 28 and after. For the next months, the deliveries are manageable, the fleet keeps getting older, and we have an average age in our fleet of under six years. But what we need to be careful is a rapid return to an efficient market while the heavy order book is delivering. This could change the balance abruptly. The inefficiencies caused by the war in Ukraine, Iran, plus the Red Sea diversions create significant ton miles and ton days. Moving on to slide 16 is a new slide we created, and it is ton days, not ton miles. Ton miles tell us how far the cargo travels, while ton days tell us how long a ship is tied up carrying. And that is what decides how many ships are free. The dark blue line is this year. You can see March when Hormuz shut and the AG cargoes disappeared overnight. You can see the recovery in the summer, and you can see where we are now, at the highest point of the chart, well above last year and well above the range of the six years before that. Year-to-date, crude tanker days are up 6%. Suez maxes are up 6%. VLCCs are down 2%, which does not sound like much until you remember that for most of the spring and summer, the biggest VLCC loading area in the world was largely shut. Since September, the BLCC line is back where it was last year, and last year's fourth quarter was a strong market. The reason is that every barrel now takes longer to deliver. Cargoes out of the Gulf are shuttled through the strait and transferred ship to ship, so one cargo can tie up one, two, or even three ships and cause them to wait. It is not only Hormuz, a good part of the Saudi crew loading in the Red Sea for Asia is going a long way around the Cape, or was earlier this year. The Atlantic ran out of BLCCs earlier in the quarter, forcing the market to look at Suezmax and Afromaxis. This created further inefficiencies as it displaces the normal balances of the fleets. In the Black Sea, ships loading at CPC have been attacked, including one of ours, like I mentioned, and fewer owners are willing to go there. None of this shows up in an order book table. The ships exist, they are just taking longer to do the work per month than they did a year ago. The last slide puts the Cargocon side next to that. It shows global crude loadings week by week this year and compared with December 2025 before any of this started. The dark blue bars are loadings inside the Hormuz. From the middle of March, they were down 10 to 12 million barrels a day and they stayed there into the summer. The bars above the line are the barrels that replaced them. Saudi crude out of the Red Sea, Fujairah, the US Gulf, South Africa, West Africa, The line is net. At the worst point, the world was loading about 10 million barrels a day less than in December. Now look at the right-hand side. Since August, the volumes from inside the Gulf have been coming back, and since the end of September, the net line has been at or around December levels. So the cargoes are back, but the fleet that is carrying them is far less efficient than it was in December, for all the reasons on the previous slide. recovered volumes on a fleet that cannot move them the way they used to. This is what took rates to where they were in October and is why they are still where they are today. What happens next? If the Strait reopens properly, the shuttles and transfers go away over time. The fleet becomes more efficient and rates come down from these levels. We said in May that a reopening would be supported but with a reset and I still think that is right. Against that, inventories were run down for most of the year and have to be rebuilt. The long-haul barrels do not disappear overnight, and the fleet is a year older. If it does not open properly, though, what you see on these two slides continues. My personal view is the status quo remains. The U.S. continues to provide escort services to shuttle crewed while blockading Iranian exports. I do not believe the U.S. can abandon the Strait of Hormuz. Thank you very much.

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Erik Hvaldsen from Pareto Sec. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi, Aristidis. Just referring to your comments on the market, I mean, it does seem like experts through Hormuz has been getting a little bit more efficient recently and that's maybe causing this decline in rates. Do you have any additional color there? What are you actually seeing now in terms of the ship-to-ship transfer activity and how do you expect that to develop over the coming month or so?

Thank you for the question and for being on the call. I think it's a really challenging Thank you very much. I think towards the end of the summer and the beginning of September, constraints on STS equipment and tugboats and fendering. So you were seeing some delays in that, which added one or two days to the voyage, which I think largely have stopped. But I don't think that the shuttling of entering, loading and exiting has become any more efficient. So I would say My view is that volumes have probably increased, that maybe the shuttling has become slightly more efficient just due to the STS delays, but overall, nothing significant in increased efficiency.

Okay, and just on the five LCCs you have on these short-term fields, through mid-2021 is what you're saying, and that is the four $50,000 a day folks and it's great we should use them and then you have one that will fill on the one year contract right?

Yeah we have that VLCC we fixed the coke at $90,000 a day which is sad it hurts us and then we have the $450,000 blended average that goes until mid and February on the other VLCCs like I mentioned earlier.

And right now, with what's going on in the FFA market, is the time charter market completely drying up? And secondly, what do you see in terms of transactions? There was an unrelated party we also see transactions yesterday. Is that representative for where the market would be at the moment, do you think?

I'll answer the FFA question first. For sure, the FFA, the time charter business that was available a month ago, and the rates that were being discussed are no longer there, and the charters would obviously be keen to fix quite a bit lower. I would say that at the peak of the strong market, a Suez Max for 12 months was $200,000 a day, and today we're around $150,000 to $140,000 to $150,000 a day. So it's still a fantastic rate, even though it's a lot lower than where it was. What I find quite interesting, though, is that the FFA market is actually pricing lower earnings than where charters are willing to price time charters. So that shows some confidence in the time charter, in the traders and oil companies used on the market that they're willing to pay higher than where they could potentially hedge on FFAs today. And in terms of the VLCC sale that was done, it's really hard to price a ship today. I mean, you saw that ships that were worth, a 16, 17 year old VLCC that was worth 80 million in June, was worth 150 or was worth 150 a couple of weeks ago. So there's been a huge appreciation in values. But the new building, the resale is a hard one to price. So I can't really give any more comments on that.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from Liam Burke with B Reilly Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi, Liam.

Liam Burke with B Reilly Securities.

Aristidis, there was talk that the VLCC rates were so high that shippers are starting to split cargoes on the Suez Maxes and then even down to the Afro Maxes. I know the Afro Maxes don't matter to you, but do split cargoes on Suez Maxes cannibalize your VLCC business or is it a net neutral to you?

Thank you for your question. No, I mean, we have both VLCCs and Suez Maxis. So whenever we see cargos, you know, because one acid class is too expensive, pushing up or breaking down to another, we find it as a positive because it helps increase the rates on the other one and it creates more inefficiencies. What happened specifically in October was that I think the West basically ran out of VLCCs. So they were looking at Suez Maxes and then Afromaxes. You know, it's extremely inefficient in dollars per barrel to move Afromax cargoes from the US Gulf to the east. But that's something we saw when the VLs and the Suez ran out. But it's something that's happened in West Africa. Sorry, you know, I think you asked me a question about this in the past as well. For many for a couple of years now, whenever the Suez Maxes have been quite strong. And because of the Ukraine war, Suez Maxes have, until this year, have performed better than VLCCs. We were able to compete with Suez Max cargoes on our VLCCs and find ways to triangulate by ballasting our VLCCs from Asia, loading West Africa, coming up to Europe, and then fixing US Gulf or Brazil East. So, you know, I think These types of inefficiencies give opportunities to savvy chartering teams, and we hope they continue.

Great, thank you. Iraklis, you do have a higher debt load now on the delivery of vessels. Clearly, the capital allocation priority is for dividend payout. Is there any need to allocate more towards debt reduction or are you just happy to amortize it the way you have it laid out?

No, I think we continue the course. No change in our capital allocation strategy. We're comfortable with our leverage. We continue to amortize as is. I think the Thank you very much. Your next question comes from Evan Kolsgaard with Clarkson Securities AS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Thank you. So back to today's spot market. As I said, you think that there are no efficiency gains in the trade today, but we obviously see a quite big correction in spot rates for VLCCs. But you also said that you think that rates are likely to rebound soon. So could you give us your thoughts on the recent correction and why you think rates could go up again?

Sure. Well, look, I mean, I think it's normal whenever there's a huge run-up in rates that the end user finds ways of avoiding to pay, you know, $150 plus delivered oil. And rates had gotten so expensive that it was the first time that freight was a meaningful percentage of I think the highest done from U.S. Gulf was 80, 85, 90 million. And if the cargo was 200 million and oil was at 100, that's almost 50% of the cargo value. That's never happened before. So I think the buyers of oil obviously had to buy whatever they needed to buy. in order to keep the refineries working. And then what we're seeing now is everyone taking a chance to find ways of either using inventory or being creative and stepping away for the market and letting it unwind a bit. And another way to keep the market quiet is that if you have ships in position, you use your own vessels as well. So the charters have their own time charter fleets and they can use relets to keep the market quieter instead of fixing out on third party vessels. So I think they've been quite good at taking a lot of steam out of the market, but there's volatility in this market and we haven't seen any like systemic change, which shows that the inefficiencies and the tightness in the market have gone or deteriorated. So yeah, I definitely think that we're close to the bottom. It's getting a lot busier on Afromaxes in the US Gulf. The Suez Maxes seem to have stabilized out of West Africa. The VLCCs are busier these past couple days, but rates are still coming off. I mean, Chevron on the frontline relit just fixed 310 from Fujairah East, which was probably around 330 yesterday. But I think this is the floor we're getting to. We'll see more cargo inquire over the next couple of weeks and rates stabilize and push up from there.

Great, thanks. And I'm looking a bit longer at the time. So I think there's a lot of different assumptions when it comes to 27. So you obviously have the FFA market, and you said that time charter market, the price is even higher. and then obviously you have the extra market which seems to be pricing it even lower. So as you go into 27, obviously it's a time before you will take the re-delivery of your time cartridge ships. But in 27, you will basically be fully spot exposed. So how do you think? Sorry? You're currently close to 27 and we have to just wait for 27 to arrive and then, and just, of course it's basically How do you think about 2027 and do you want to potentially take more coverage for 2027 going forward?

Overall, I think long-term charters, it's quite challenging to pinpoint the right time to outperform the spot market. The people who charter our ships for long periods are oil traders and oil companies who also have a view on the market. So I think, you know, having a pretty competitive breakeven and very good spot operation so we can outperform the spot market in almost all cases will outperform the long-term TC market. So if, you know, if we see an opportunity where There's a big disparity in our view with the market's view, and we think we absolutely are convinced that we should put a lot of ships on long-term TC. We have zero issue doing that, and then the chartering team can take vacation for three, four, five years. But we haven't seen that yet. But there's no fear for us to look at time charter if we think the opportunity is there. It's just that You know, we've learned and the markets learned the hard way this for the past few years that NETC has been a mistake for all companies, not just us.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from Clement Mullins with Value Investors Edge. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi, good afternoon, Tim. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start with a modeling question. You mentioned the NISO SIFNOS attack being covered by insurance. Were the proceeds booked in Q3 as other income? And secondly, should we expect incremental proceeds in Q4?

Yeah, I'll take this one. On the CFNUS, we have recognized the loss of higher revenue. Well, under RTC, we have recognized loss of higher income, yes, in Q3.

We didn't catch your second question.

Okay, thank you.

Okay. And then... And then your slideshow in crew tanker ton days being up nicely year over year was like quite interesting. But I wanted to get some more insight on how Sinocor has been employing its assets recently and whether that has had an impact. They've played a large role in the shuttling business around the strait, we all know that. But the vessels they have outside, have they been traveling at speeds similar to the rest of the fleet? Or are they, let's say, to an extent holding back a bit?

Look, I think in terms of what Sinocorps does inside the Hormuz, you know, there's people who track their ships and they can give you a better answer than I can. So I'm not going to comment on that. But outside of Hormuz where people keep their AIS systems on and you can track ships, it's evident that Sinocorps plays a very effective role as a buffer and support to the market. And when the market is strong, you see that their speed and utilization increases. And when the market is weak, the speed they travel at reduces as well as their utilization. And this is another, you know, it's obviously positive in any downfall when the market comes off as it is now, because they reduce, you know, they and they choose not to fix, which I think the VLCC community has now accepted that they do this to the benefit of the other owners to a greater extent than they do to themselves. But looking medium term, Sinocor has taken this massive bet building up a 150-ship VLCC fleet with what seemed like extremely expensive assets and rates at the beginning of last year. I would assume now these assets have been completely paid off and the time charters are weighing the money. And that just makes Sinocor a very strong counterparty going forward. So I think in addition, as the new buildings deliver, we'll continue to see Sinocor use their size to help push up the market where they can.

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. And final question from me. We've seen some efforts by the Trump administration to try to get some sanctioned vessels back into the regular trading fleet. Estimates regarding the number of vessels that may ultimately, let's say, come back have been all over the place. But what is your base case scenario on this front? I'm guessing you expect the impact to be limited?

Yeah, that's a great question, Clement. So, firstly, I mean, yeah, I've heard rumors and I've read articles on, I think, Reuters that, you know, VTOL and Trafigura and Mercuria have been looking at ways of finding more ships to shuttle more cargoes. I think if you're an owner of Volare or VLCC, you should tell Trafigura that that works against their interests and they shouldn't do that. But I think it's natural that in the pie of the VLCC fleet or the total tanker fleet, we have normal ships and we have sanctioned ships. And then we have this part that's gray fleet, but not sanctioned. I think this part of the fleet, it's quite easy for these vessels to transfer back over to the normal fleet. I'm sure the US and OFAC have some understanding with the traders or the buyers of these ships that once they go into normal hands, they won't be doing sanctioned business and they potentially won't be exposed to sanctioned trades that they had done earlier in their lives. But these ships are 20, 22 years old. They don't have much life left in them. Maybe they have a couple Hormuz transits, but they're not going to come back and compete in the normal market with us. So, yeah, they do. Every one of these ships does replace a normal ship that was shuttling inside the Hormuz. But, you know, there aren't that many of them and they're extremely old and inefficient. In terms of the sanction fleet coming back, you know, I think it's it's hard. to think of a reasonable way where they can. If we assume that a large percentage of the sanctions fleet had some relationship with Iran directly, and then there were others who were just opportunistic owners, it seems very hard to believe that you would waive sanctions on an Iranian-related vessel, and then that specific Iranian-related vessel will transfer crude oil through the U.S., A route under U.S. protection and, you know, eating into Iran's story that the Hormuz is closed. And so I think that unsanctioning of sanctioned tankers, I don't see how it's reasonable or practical in my mind. But, you know, politics are politics and sometimes they surprise people.

Make sense. That was a comprehensive answer. I'll turn it over. Thank you for taking my questions.

Thank you.

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now turn the call back to Iraklis Sbarounis, CFO, for closing remarks.

Yeah. Thanks, everyone, for joining. We look forward to touching base again regarding trip four sometime in February, I expect. Thank you.

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