Hello, everyone. My name is Janine and I will be your conference operator for today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Kinetic Third Quarter 2026 Results Conference Call. Please be advised that all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one or telephone keypad. If you would like to read our question, please press star one again. And with that, I would now like to turn the call over to Alex Durkee to begin the conference. Please go ahead.

Good morning and welcome to Kinetic's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Our speakers today are Jamie Welch, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Trevor Howard, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of the risks that could cause actual results to differ materially. We will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations can be found in our earnings materials and on our website. With that, I will turn the call over to Jamie.

Thank you, Alex. Good morning, everyone. The third quarter was another strong step forward for Kinetic. Record process gas volumes, strong system performance, and improving producer activity supported our results as the impact of price-related curtailments diminished. Our outlook has strengthened and producer development plans give us greater confidence in our growth trajectory. That confidence supports our expectation that 2026 adjusted EBITDA will be at the high end of our guidance range. We are strong believers that the Permian's best days are still ahead. Producer activity is increasingly extending beyond the traditional core oil benches into gaseous formations with higher gas to oil ratios, including the Woodford, Avalon, First Bone Spring, and Penn Shale. These development trends are significantly increasing demand for gathering, processing, and treating capacity and play directly to the strengths of our integrated footprint. At the same time, localized Waha egress constraints have begun to ease. In just the last three months, over 7 billion cubic feet per day of new Permian pipeline egress capacity has been announced, and we now expect more than 13 billion cubic feet per day of incremental residue gas takeaway capacity to come online from 2028 through 2030, providing the downstream infrastructure necessary to support the next phase of Permian Basin growth. Against that backdrop, and based on our own system's current utilization, it is increasingly clear ECCC Float Surplus Volume South In September, we elected to upsize KL2 from the originally planned 300 million cubic feet per day to 380 million cubic feet per day of processing capacity, with no increase to the approximately $260 million expected project cost. Our operations team successfully procured key equipment at a low expected cost, allowing us to acquire the additional residue compression required to support the larger design while maintaining project economics. KL2 remains on track for mid-2028 in service. We are also investing in targeted projects that add incremental system capacity and operating flexibility across the system. For example, at Pacus Bend, we're undertaking treating upgrades that will support high inlet CO2 concentrations and additional volumes moving into Delaware South. And we're also procuring additional compression equipment to be deployed across our gathering system to further support growing producer volumes and proactively manage our supply chain. Our commercial results provide compelling evidence. We built on a successful first half of the year with another quarter of solid commercial execution. Since August, we have executed new and amended gathering and processing agreements across New Mexico and Texas adding more than 30,000 gross dedicated acres across our footprint with first flow expected in the second and third quarters of 2027. A portion of this acreage is prospective for the Woodford Formation, an emerging gas-weighted play that we believe has the potential to drive meaningful long-term volume growth across our system. These agreements further validate the competitive advantages of our business, including our extensive Delaware Basin footprint, robust treating capabilities, operational reliability, and differentiated premium netback offerings. As these new volumes layer in alongside ongoing customer development, we will continue to utilize all available means to cost-effectively expand our operating processing capacity, be it with plant modifications and or boost recompression. Now even with these initiatives, we expect to reach full utilization across our integrated system by the end of 2027. and to that end, the phase one expansion of ECCC will be an important bridge. That expansion will allow us to move incremental volumes south to Texas to optimize our processing capacity utilization until KL2 enters service and will give us flexibility on managing third-party offloads. I want to be clear. The opportunity we see in 2027 is not simply a volume story. The vast majority of our expected growth next year is anticipated to come from higher margin, low pressure developments, which support an increase in our unit fee margins. In addition, our legacy Lone Star NGL contracts in Texas and New Mexico begin expiring this quarter with the first expiration on October 31st and further expirations at the end of this year and September 2027. These expirations will drive greater gross margin growth in 2027 than we had previously intimated. Importantly, these are all business-specific drivers, largely independent of commodity prices, and we expect them to meaningfully improve unit gross margins and our 2027 EBITDA and cash flow growth. Looking further out, the recent commercial commitments and robust producer development activity improve our visibility beyond KL2. To keep pace with our customers' long-term development plans, we ordered long-lead residue compression equipment and we are now procuring front-end amine and the actual 400 million cubic feet per day cryo itself for our next gas processing facility. Continued commercial success and execution will accelerate the timing of that subsequent processing expansion. Taken together, we see a clear path to continued volume growth, improving margins, robust financial health, and high conviction in our near-term and medium-term outlook. Favorable basin dynamics, accelerating commercial momentum, and the strategic advantages of our integrated platform continue to reinforce one another expanding both the scale of our opportunity set and the duration of our growth runway. We remain highly confident in our outlook and our ability to create meaningful value for shareholders. And with that, I will turn the call over to Trevor.

Thank you, Jamie. For the third quarter, Kinetic reported adjusted EBITDA of $278 million, distributable cash flow was $214 million, capital expenditures were $131 million, and free cash flow was $88 million. Within midstream logistics, adjusted EBITDA increased 34% year-over-year to $204 million. Processed natural gas volumes were 1.94 billion cubic feet per day with an estimated 25 million cubic feet per day of Waha price-related shut-ins on average during the quarter. Sequentially, results benefited from higher processed gas volumes, continued strength in system operating performance, and favorable commodity margin realization. Meanwhile, Gulf Coast marketing margin declined as expected with Waha natural gas prices improving to positive territory. Our pipeline transportation segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $79 million, down 18% year-over-year. The decline primarily reflects the late 2025 divestiture of our equity interest in Epic Crude and higher fuel costs at Permian Highway Pipeline and lower throughput volumes at the Chinook NGL Pipeline. However, volumes on Chinook continue to outperform original budget expectations. At quarter end, net debt was approximately $3.9 billion, liquidity was $1.1 billion, and our leverage improved to 3.7 times. Turning to the outlook, we now expect full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA to be at the high end of our EBITDA guidance range. Third quarter results exceeded our internal expectations, driven primarily by commodity margin and fee realization. While our business remains predominantly fee-based and we are well hedged across products through year-end, commodity prices have remained above our August guidance assumptions and continue to provide incremental upside. We expect higher gas fee gross margin and operating performance to continue to support into the fourth quarter. Process gas volumes continue to track toward our target of approximately 2.2 billion cubic feet per day in the fourth quarter. Additionally, crude and water fee gross margin as well as operating expenses remain largely in line with our expectations. We now expect full year 2026 capital expenditures, including maintenance capital, to come in approximately 5% below our guidance of approximately $560 million. The lower expected spending reflects favorable project execution, operational efficiencies, disciplined cost management, the timing of certain project payments now expected to occur in 2027, and also includes the purchase of incremental compression equipment that Jamie discussed earlier. Looking to 2027 beyond the volume and margin drivers Jamie described, we expect a constructive commodity environment to support gross margin, partially offset by lower residue gas marketing contributions. Earnings and distributable cash flow have grown significantly throughout the year, and we have made material progress in achieving our financial framework milestones. Dividend coverage improved to 1.6 times in the third quarter, up from 1.5 times in the second quarter. Consistent with our framework, we plan to sustain coverage of 1.6 times or greater for several quarters before growing the dividend more closely in line with our earnings outlook. In the meantime, we currently anticipate a recommendation at the high end of our targeted annual 3% to 5% increase for the fourth quarter dividend that we expect to declare on our regular cadence in January 2027. Leverage is following a similar path. We ended the quarter at 3.7 times, and based on our current outlook, expect to exit the year at the low end of our 3.5 to 4.0 times target range on an annualized quarterly EBITDA basis. That progress positions us well as we continue to execute our growth oriented framework. When we introduced it earlier this year, we said we expected elevated growth capital driven by high return projects backed by long term commercial agreements. With customer activity already pointing to processing needs beyond KL2, we continue to expect growth capital to likely remain elevated as we advance strategic projects across our system. Our capital allocation priorities remain unchanged. Fund attractive, high-return organic growth projects, maintain a resilient balance sheet, and return capital to shareholders through a growing well-covered dividend. What has changed is the pace. Progress across these objectives is really exceeding our prior expectations, giving us greater capacity to fund growth and return capital while maintaining balance sheet discipline. Operator, we can now open the line for questions.

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 again. If you are using a speakerphone, kindly lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment while we gather questions. Our first question comes from the line of Theresa Chen from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to go back to the margin outlook, Jamie. With the AGI and sour gas conversion project expected to align around year end, can you help us frame more quantitatively the potential margin uplift in 2027? and as increasingly sour volumes come onto your system, how should we think about the benefit from treating economics and your ability to optimize between Delaware North and South?

Thanks for the question, Theresa. This is Trevor. We've never explicitly stated how much that project is, but a fair way to think about the phase one for the project is approximately $100 million. Typically, we underwrite Thank you for joining us. only about 20% of that well. And so there's tremendous operating leverage and that has the potential to be a really attractive, interesting project as volumes come onto the system beyond 2027. But we were really pleased when we originally underwrote this back in 2025 with the setup only utilizing about 20% of the permitted capacity.

Great, thank you. And with your progress to exit the year around 2.2 BCF per day of inlet volumes with the system approaching full utilization second half of next year, how should we think about the cadence of volume growth through 2027 and beyond really taking into account the new GNP agreements announced?

Theresa, it's Jamie. As far as the overall level of growth, I think it will be best manifested by the cadence you see with the announcements on processing capacity. And I think what we had originally expected and anticipated and communicated to folks was every 18 to 24 months we would add an additional crier. There was a time we would focus on 200 a day. We obviously now have migrated to 400 a day. So said another way, our volume growth expectations have doubled relative to where we were. That should give you a perspective and insight as to what we're seeing both as it relates to New Mexico, but also in Texas. So that's 400 a day every 18 to 24 months is a big step up from where we originally were.

Thank you so much.

No problem.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Spiro Donis from Citi Bank. Please go ahead.

Thanks, operator. Morning, everybody. I want to maybe add on to that question a little bit. Hey, Jamie. Maybe just stick with processing capacity here. So trajectory strong into next year, ECCC expansion helps deal with some of this expanded volume. but you also talked about those expansions across your legacy processing plants that it sounds like are still going to end up filling up by the end of the year. So I'm curious, can you remind us how much processing expansion upside there is on that current system and how you think about maybe the CapEx and timing to extract all that extra capacity?

CapEx is relatively small. The overall, yeah, we've already undertaken some small projects. I would say sort of what remains to go is somewhere in the order of probably 50 a day of incremental. If our guys can basically push any more out, they'll obviously look at it. But we look at it on a value engineering basis, meaning what's the value of the capacity upside and how much does it cost to get it? And how quickly can we get it? All of this is stuff that we actually anticipate over the course of the next six months should be done. So it's not a long lead time. It's things we've been building up. Honestly, it's been on the drawing board for quite some time. So now we're basically, as we undertake any maintenance events, we're obviously looking to basically swap out equipment and whether it's rebuilding center blocks or whether it's adding a boost recompression, all of that is basically contemplated over the course of the next six plus months.

Got it. Got it. It's great. Second question, just going to the dividend. Trevor, as you said, achieved your 1.6 times coverage ratio, which allows you to accelerate the growth there. I appreciate that it's a board decision and probably a few quarters away, but is there a maybe sort of secondary framework you can help expand on to help us understand how much you'd be willing to accelerate to and then just what you're watching before you sort of make that decision?

Yeah, thanks for the question. What I would say is that typically we recommend a dividend increase at the beginning of each year. And so that's announced in January, paid in February. So that would be the fourth quarter of this year dividend. Look, we just hit 1.6 times. If you were to add a pretty significant dividend increase, that would put you below 1.6 times. The way that we're thinking about it is that historically we've said 3% to 5% of annual dividend growth given the performance of this year, where we're trending, balance sheet health, and also dividend coverage trajectory. Management's more comfortable with being at the high end of that 3% to 5% range for the increase in January, and then we will reevaluate with each quarter thereafter.

I think, Spiro, one of the things that we're grappling with right now is We are going to remain with an elevated capital program going into 2027. And I think our viewpoint is, look, you can put $0.04 on the board and put it back into a shareholder's pocket. No problem. $81 can become $85. I think the difference for us, though, is we continue to see this step change going into 2027. And therefore, it is important for us Thank you. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Bingham from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions here. You mentioned the increased prospectivity of secondary benches. Would just be curious to hear what sort of early results you're seeing and maybe how much of 27 volumes that you're expecting internally could be driven by a higher weighting of these benches and development plans?

Yeah, sure. Brandon, I think, look, what is interesting to us, and we said it in our prepared remarks as well as in the press release itself, Avalon, First Bone, Woodford, Woodford is obviously, as it relates to Texas, Woodford obviously has quite the buzz related to, we heard it with Diamondback, we've seen their aggregation of acreage more in the Midland, but very much premised or predicated on a Woodford formation and that development potential. Thank you for joining us. But it is such volume. It is literally, it's raining gas, gas galore. I think as far as some of the other secondary benches and what we're seeing, Penn Shale is a really exciting area when we migrate up to New Mexico. And that's probably where we start to see some really interesting opportunities. And the beauty of our system is we're sort of perfectly positioned in both. and that makes for, literally, it's a great commercial opportunity, it's a great opportunity for us to obviously capitalize on a lot of our producers' execution and their overall potential.

One other thing, Brandon, that I would just add, I like going back to where the basin was and then where we are today. So in 2018, Thank you for joining us. The GORs have compounded at about 5% to 6% per year, and we expect that to not just to continue, but actually the potential to accelerate as these deeper benches start to get unlocked, given it is a step change in GORs.

Okay, very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe just thinking about development activity, this might be more of a thought exercise than anything, but producer development activity has been relatively stable in light of $100 oil, give or take, with the Permian seems to be more dictated by Waha at least this year. Could you share your thoughts or maybe any customer sentiment or discussions that you've had around what development could do if crude moves lower quickly next year?

Yeah, look, I think I think when we look out across the board, obviously there's an opportunity just given where the overall strip is that you can hedge a lot of potential production. I think in New Mexico in particular, Trevor likes to call it a baked cake, so we sort of do know what 2027 looks like because you've got a lot more and many more. the question I don't really see much change in behavior certainly going into 2027 2028 you know obviously TBD but I really do think 2027 for now is looking very much like it's it's baked and what we saw during the course of this year because we've been very consistent our big customers said yes we see you know we see prompt month we see where it is We can try to basically bring on development pads 30 days, 60 days earlier than anticipated, but don't expect significant changes. The changes that we saw on timing, end of 2027 into mid-2027, mid-2027 to the beginning of 2027, it's 27 that is very much, I would say, Certainly for us, don't know about our other peers, but this is where we're seeing our producers really, it's going to be the game changer, right? That's where you're going to see the volume growth that to this point, you've seen it a little bit around the edges, but not so much. 2027 is where you're going to see a pronounced differential.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gabe Dodd from Truist. Sir, please go ahead.

Thanks, operator. Good morning, Jamie and Trevor and everyone. Thanks for taking my questions.

I was hoping we could maybe, similar to Brandon's question, just talk a little bit about the Permian gas outlook.

You know, Diamondback said on their call they expect the 2030s, the Permian to be the largest gas plant in the country and no one has really targeted gas formations yet. Obviously, Waha improves and the Woodford makes a lot of gas, as you said, but still driven the Permian in general by oil economics, obviously. So Jamie, I guess I'm just curious, are you hearing anyone talk about the improvement in Waha driving maybe more of a focal point on gas zones, even beyond what you've highlighted and really increasing gas directed drilling in the Permian?

Well, I think the fact that we have Solitude gets announced as a twin 48, and then within a space of six weeks, we have Kinder announced Permian Link. The fact you'll continue to see Permian egress pipes should, in fact, give a pretty clear path to any interested observers and pundits on the Permian. There's a lot of gas growth. and I think we saw cases, stockholders letter for the third quarter. I actually agree with it. We've been saying this for some time. We said come the 2030s, the single largest gas base in this country will be the Permian. No one believes us or believed us. I still think people question it but the fact that we've got 13 BCF a day of pipelines that literally are basically coming into service over the passage of the next handful of years, I think hopefully at some point people realize that This is real. And if you can get cost down, controllable costs, on a drilled lateral footage basis and make it cost competitive, I really do think this is where you're going to see significant amount of incremental gas production and continue to see, as evidenced by how quickly these pipelines get announced, unlike when you're in the Marcellus Utica or anywhere else that you've got to do an interstate, you've got a lot more activity and long durations. So I do think, you know, our viewpoint is we're just right now, we are just testing the surface of the real gas formations. The Woodford obviously seems to have captured a lot of attention in Texas, Penn Shale in New Mexico. This is where it's going. Those two bench formations will become common vernacular for everyone inside 12 months. everyone will think about it and not even look at this as being something new and different. It will just become part of just overall expectation.

Gabe, the other thing that I would just jump in here is that I say historically people have looked at the economics within the Permian Basin as being gas or oil. And I think our belief is that it's really co-products. There are parts of the Woodford that are 1,000 barrels a day of oil, 1,500 barrels a day of oil that also have a 15 to 20 a day rich gas stream. And so that 15 to 20 a day rich gas stream is pretty dang significant and just helps the economics that much further. And then the same is true on more gassier windows of the Woodford. You might have a million and a half EUR NGL barrel but 20 to 25 a day of rich gas production. So pretty significant dry gas volumes as well as pretty significant NGL yields. So there are dry gas windows and that ultimately may be the case and that may happen. But the way that we think about this is just you've had over five BCF a day of demand pull pipes get FID between DSW and Permian Link. That potentially is going to elicit a price response which then elicits a supply response Not just within the Permian, but also across the lower 48, which brings you back to your cost curve. And if you have comparable Haynesville-sized wells at comparable costs, but also have a liquid stream or even a crude stream, these are just more economic wells. And so at the end of the day, in a commodities business, low-cost operator wins, the lower break-even wins. And so we really like where we sit just comparatively. just from a perspective of how is this capacity going to get filled over time into the 2030s?

Awesome. That's really good call, guys. Thanks for that. As a follow-up to the higher levels question, there's been a lot of GMP M&A in the Permian in the last several months. We'd love to get, Jamie, I guess your updated perspective on inorganic opportunities and just the amount of activity that we've seen.

Sure. We continue to see lots of activity, right? We look at everything. Our viewpoint is at the multiples and values being ascribed to existing assets. Our focus and attention needs to continue on our organic growth program where you can deploy capital at mid-single digits, you know, four to six times, five times on a setup basis. Then that's where you should be investing and that's going to create the most amount of value for shareholders. We really like the abundance of opportunities we have. We've got now King's Landing 2 out there, so that's going to increase our capacity stack by 15%. If we announce the next cryo, that will raise that to over 30% of our installed capacity being built. The leaps and bounds on the underlying growth that we see are pretty significant.

Got it. Thanks, Jamie. Very helpful. Thanks, guys.

No problem.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gabrielle Marine from Missoula. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, team. I just wondered if you can maybe talk a little bit more about the new NGL agreements. And I think the language on doing better than expected. Just curious on your approach on contracting. Does that mean you kind of lock stuff in medium to long term since I think Given all the gas talk here stands to reason there's a lot of NGLs coming as well.

Yeah, sure. Thanks, Gabe. What we had said and we said to anticipate and an illustration we gave is between 27 and 2030, we'd see about $150 million of margin, basically aggregate cumulative margin. If you're looking at breaking it down on a rateable basis, think about it as $40 million a year. The easiest way to think about it, and the reason we put the statement in the press release, is because we're probably looking at over 50% increase relative to that for 2017. So that's why we said, listen, we've got to pull forward on volumes. We've got recontracting rates, which were better than we anticipated, some total of which is obviously accelerating the benefit, particularly as it gets into 2027. then as far as duration of the contracts we've got flexibility we've got a lot of flexibility both in the north and in the south on the term structure and these are obviously highly cost effective rates so I think we haven't given an exact term date for it if you will but I think we've got flexibility with all of these contracts and they are they give us the right runway to capitalize on what we're seeing around us.

Thanks, Jamie. Maybe if I could just follow up. I think last year we were around this time when you announced the deal with Ineos, you didn't probably contemplate $30 MMBTU LNG pricing, but can you maybe talk about whether that has any impact for you guys with that deal and just also within the broader picture of creative solutions for producers whether it's in-basin or out-of-basin LNG. Can you talk about any other things you may be working on that front?

Sure. So, Gabe, as far as INEOS, I'm glad you raised it. Obviously, yes, we didn't anticipate it would be where it is. It obviously will be a contributor to 2027 and the growth that we have. Obviously, the question is, what's the timing for Port Arthur to reach in service? We have been saying for some time What we saw from just a macro price standpoint, Waha was a bottleneck and therefore there was value destruction. With all of these egress pipes to Houston Ship and Ecuador, obviously that provided the relief valve for gas and obviously helped a lot. We continue to think outside the box and say, look, TTF, JKM, what are the opportunities there for our customers? and how can we capitalize on this abundance of gas supply that we control, right? Residue gas that we control. And so I think we continue to look at multiple deals and I think more to come, but we are big proponents. I think we see a lot on the gas side, very similar to what Case does with Diamondback in the context of thinking about how do you maximize the value of gas and the gas molecule coming out of West Texas?

Thanks, Jamie. Can I just squeeze one more in just in terms of 27 being big? Does that mean you've done a lot of hedging on the commodity side with the curve having moved up here of late?

Yeah, Gabe, thanks for the question. It's Trevor. Look, we have communicated previously that we have a rateable hedging program that looks out up to 24 months. What I would say is that we've continued with that rateable program, but we do have some flexibility to flex between the mins and the maxes. And as we've been approaching 2027, we've been pretty active on the hedging front as we look out into 27 and 28.

Got you. Thanks, Trevor. Thanks, Jamie. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John McKay from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Thank you for the time. I want to go back to the 2.2 BCF day volume guide for next quarter, for fourth quarter. Any color you can give us on kind of the implied step up over third quarter. It's pretty material. So maybe just give us some of the kind of building blocks to get from the 194 and then any kind of view on how that can progress into 27 would be great. Thank you.

John, thank you for asking this question. I saw it in your note last night. I'm like, I hope he asked this question. All right, so maybe for all these listeners, since everyone seems so obsessed with this, our average for October was 2.14 BCF a day. 200 million cubic feet a day higher than your third quarter average. And we had some MVC deficiencies on top, about 25. Now they've got the rest of the quarter to catch up. So you are proverbially, as Rich Kinder would once say, on the lip of the cup. and my hope is that this, you know, I've seen it, whether it's you, whether it's obviously Keith, all the other analysts obviously focused on this and we get it, but I think, look, the volume is there and that is an actual average number for the month of October. There we go.

Jamie, that was crystal clear. We appreciate it. Second... I just, I mean, I see and we understood... yeah we exactly we understood the 194 and how do you bridge it so we were just hoping that someone would ask us and there's your answer so hey hopefully that alleviates a lot of concern absolutely clear we appreciate it just a quick last one from me and you touched on the next trial a little bit but maybe just again like walk us through kind of milestones ahead of that that you want us to watch thanks

Look, I think from our vantage point, it continues to be, we've got a pretty good, as I said, baked cake as it relates to 2027 right now. I think the commercial team with Trevor and Ross and Nick are very much focused on what is 2028 and how does that change? And a lot of that's going to be geopolitics, macro, we get it. and then there's a number of other commercial opportunities if we were fortunate to basically harvest and secure those. All of that is the dynamic that literally then creates the impetus to say, time's come, we've got to get this online, here's the date we need to hit it. We know that from our experiences with KL2, residue recompression, front end aiming, and the crier, long lead items. Civil construction, not a problem. Securing the site is a decision. We have several different opportunities that we could actually go and capitalize on. And so to us, it's all going to be dependent upon how quickly do we need something and what's the location best suited to the gas sources that we're looking to basically gather and process.

That makes sense. Appreciate the time. Thank you. No problem.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Julian Dumoulin-Smith from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hey, how's it going? It's Alex Obermeyer on for Julian. Maybe just going back to gross margins and growth that you guys are expecting in 2027. Is the growth that you're expecting in 2027, could we say that's relative to The third quarter, which is maybe more normalized gross margins now that Waha curtailments are effectively resolved?

Not so much, Alex, because you're going to have the obviously embedded in a gross margin will obviously be the NGO uplift. You'll have the first phase of King's Landing, of the south conversion of King's Landing. You know, you'll continue. It's really the mix of gas. Most of our gas is low pressure, right? We have... more limited high pressure outlets. And low pressure is where we see incremental treating fees, you know, compression, gathering. So you've got a bundle of services that you provide to the customer. So I don't think just taking the third quarter and saying, well, this is the new watermark is necessarily reflective of how you think about 27. I think what Trevor's commentary was That unit margin will continue to go up into 2027, and 2027 will be as much about a unit margin increase as it is about volume increases.

Gotcha. That's super helpful. And then just really quickly on OpEx, is it fair to assume that kind of 78 to 80 million run rate per quarter into 2027 as well?

Look, there will be some step ups at the beginning of the year and then also throughout the year, just in regular way cost escalations. We also had Val and things like that, right? Yeah, just cost of living adjustments, merit adjustments that happen at the beginning of the year. We do have some term contracts that have baked in escalators on some of our rental equipment that will step up middle of the year. That's offset with what we expect to be some benefits on the electricity side. So net-net, I'd say it's directionally up, but I'd say in general just with escalation and then also in terms of just volume growth, that's also going to increase your overall just total op-ex.

Gotcha. Thank you.

No problem. Thanks, Alex.

Next question comes from the line of Elvira Cotto from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hey, great. Thanks, and good morning, everyone. So, KO2 was upsized by over 25% to 380 million cubic feet a day, but capex stayed at 260 million. You attributed the savings to equipment components coming under budget. Should we kind of think of this as a permanent step down in per MMCS per day build costs where there's some one-time procurement wins? And then can you frame the expected CapEx cost range, you know, on a new cryo relative to sort of the KL2 to $60 million?

Yeah, sure. Elvira, it's Jamie. So I think as far as KL2, you're right in everything you just stated as far as procurement of some of the major pieces of equipment were lower than we ASED, and therefore we were able to get additional residue compression as well as slightly change the configuration for the plant to achieve the 380 million cubic feet a day. As far as your question on how do we think about going forward, I think, look, it is very much going to be dependent upon where you're locating a plant. So I think your range is, you know, as you get to a brownfield versus a greenfield, and let's just make the assumption that there's available power, which I think is one of the big questions, in the range of $200 to $250 million. That's how you think about it. So that's for a 400. And that's for a 400. And what Matt and the ops teams would tell you is the brownfield, if you get after it and you can secure the aiming and the cryo and the compression, you could be done in 12, 15 months. So it's really, you know, that's, you know, speed to execution, right? But that's predicated on securing those big component pieces. where I think you're then looking for a greenfield more in the 18 to 24.

Got it, got it. My next question is kind of higher level and you touched on this a little bit. It seems like you have a lot of visibility into 2027 and it looks like that could be a pretty significant growth year for kinetic. And I understand there's a lot of moving pieces when you think about 2028 and beyond, but if we assume you know geopolitical right I mean say Iran gets figured out and let's just say oil settles at sort of 70 to 80 dollars I mean we do have when we think about visibility into growth beyond 2027 how should we think about that I mean you know on the volume side would you is your would your volume growth be trending above where sort of you know Permian gas volume growth expectations are just Any way to frame growth beyond 2027?

Sure. Look, I think as far as volume growth, we have literally, we have increased at a higher rate of growth than the underlying basis. And I don't think that picture changes going forward. You know, I got into... I got into more hot water back in 2025 when I talked about the 10% CAGR through the end of the decade and everyone remembers that including my CFO who's literally just he's just cowering now but I think the short answer is the building blocks that we said there were there and obviously 2025 I recognized was literally we had to lick our wounds and we had some bumps along the road away and we sold Epic which obviously changed things but interestingly enough The 988 is what we ultimately reported. If we end up at 1.1 billion, that's an 11% growth rate. And my expectation is, look, you know, 2027 I think is a step change relative to what anyone expects. And I think going forward, that 10% CAGR growth, all those building blocks to that foundation for that CAGR are still in place, if not actually more pronounced today than they were back then. so I think we feel really good about what we're seeing in front of us and I think the opportunity set presenting as I said New Mexico abundant number of opportunities Texas there's a lot of opportunities and what we really like and you know Trevor and the commercial team are working on it is you know Woodford you know there's some really good really really exciting development potential down there and I think we're seeing the ability to harvest both and that pretty much is reflective of the fact we have such a unique system. We're in the south, we're in the north and we've got an area, a capture area that is more expansive than most and we're able to obviously capture that and obviously provide, we think, premium service and a premium net back on the way that we structure our contracts.

Great. Thank you very much. Super helpful.

No problem.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tenet from JPMorgan Securities. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

You looking for a response?

Top of the day. Just wanted to make sure you heard.

Oh, of course we heard, Jeremy.

Going to 2027, if we could a little bit here, appreciating there's a lot of variables and not providing guidance at this point. But, you know, given, I guess, the pieces you laid out there, should we expect growth to be kind of ratable across the year? Or is it more front end or back end loaded? Just trying to, you know, get a sense.

I think ratable. As I said, you know, think about the earlier comments. You've got a big pull forward into the very beginning of the year. You've got a pull forward into the middle of the year. That's where you're going to start to see. So I think rateable is a good way to frame it at this point. You and I don't control the drill bit, but I think that's certainly based on drilling plans and turn in line forecasts. That's what's being shown and presented to us.

Got it. That's helpful. And then I just wanted to dial in, I guess, on the balance sheet in capital allocation as you waited out there. It seems like leverage could be trending lower, especially going into next year as this growth materializes. And just wondering, I guess, how that impacts your thought process overall.

Thanks, Jeremy. It's Trevor. It's a good question. So we exited the third quarter at 3.7 times leverage, which is below the midpoint of our three and a half to four times target or range. We still have a target of three and a half or lower. If you take the implied fourth quarter EBITDA guide and you were to annualize it off of expected net debt, you're below our target of three and a half times at the end of this year. And so we're really, really pleased with where leverage has trended throughout the year. and its trajectory into 2027, it definitely does open up the playbook for how you think about capital allocation and the potential, I'd say, to be more offensive with how you think about capital allocation. The counter to that is we are in an environment right now where things are quite competitive, specifically speaking about the inorganic side. We've been evaluating all of these deals, trying to find ways to make them work, but we've come up short. That doesn't mean that I don't think that we're not going to be successful on a go-forward basis, but what I would just say is that we're in a different environment in 2026 than we were back in 2024. We were quite active. We made three acquisitions in 2024, just a different time period than where we are today. But you're right. I mean, with leverage improving materially, it definitely increases our flexibility. But just TBD as to what we do with that flexibility.

That's helpful. And I might have missed it, but I guess how would you think about rank ordering repurchases?

Look, repurchases have always been part of the mix. We have a $500 million program where we have utilized about 40% of it. We were, again, quite active back in the middle of 2025 and very similar to how we think about capital deployment and allocation. We make a move. We move swiftly. We built a position back in 2025. We're quite pleased with that position. And it definitely could come back into the fold, but I would say that it's going to be not necessarily rateable. You can't necessarily plug in into your model X million dollars of repurchase. Thank you. Thank you.

Our last question comes from the line of Soumya Jain from UBS. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. So phase one expands ECCC's capacity to roughly 225 and you also upsize King's Landing 2 to 380. So how will ECCC's expansion profile in the coming year shift to support this additional north to south volume when King's Landing 2 comes online? and what specific volume or pricing threshold in Waha would trigger an FID potentially for a phase two expansion of the pipeline?

Thanks for the question, it's Trevor. So interestingly with what we've seen down south, ECCC was originally contemplated to provide more processing connectivity to the north especially while we knew that we were going to be in a period of about 24 months between FID and in service of the next cryo at the King's Landing complex. That certainly is true today. We are flowing on ECCC north to south. However, as King's Landing 2 comes online, that's a 380-a-day cryo. That will effectively double the processing capacity that we have up north. and so there's gonna be a period of time where actually we're gonna be moving volumes from the south up to the north because that system's getting quite filled. And so that's one of the also added benefits of ECCC is it provides a lot of flexibility with how we think about these large processing expansions and our peers are FIDing 250 to 400 a day cryo so it's industry standard but for us, let's not miss the fact that that's a 15% increase and total processing capacity across our system. That's a big expansion for us. And so with ECCC, it'll again, we're really pleased with that 225 of north to south or south to north volumes. And again, that will help us balance out the system as we're building cryos up north and then potential to build a cryo down in Texas as our next cryo.

It's Jamie. What I think is most interesting with this is a lot of our Eddy County volume is suite and obviously we have a lot of suite in the south. So that sweet gas has the ability to go to a sour plant, which obviously King's Landing will be entirely sour. We can have sweet gas at a sour plant. We can't take sour gas and take it to a sweet plant. And so what we have on the western side of our footprint allows us this potential to move gas up, move gas down. and that I think is hydraulically and from an engineering standpoint, that is truly something that allows us to optimize and fully utilize our full processing capacity stack for the entire business.

Okay, great. Thank you for the call, Eric.

I think we're done or any more questions?

Yes, there are no further questions at this time. I will now hand the call back over to Jamie Welch for closing remarks.

Thank you everyone for your time this morning. I know it was a lot to get through so we appreciate it on a busy day and we look forward to seeing you all soon. Thank you very much.

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. We now disconnect.