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Louisiana-Pacific Corporation Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Q3, 2026 Louisiana Pacific Corporation earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, Please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Bob Hopkins, treasurer of Louisiana Pacific Corporation.
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Bob Hopkins
Treasurer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss LP Building Solutions results for the third quarter of 2026. and our updated guidance for the remainder of the year. My name is Bob Hopkins, LP's treasurer. Joining me this morning are Jason Ringblom, our chief executive officer, and Aaron Howald, our chief financial officer. Following these prepared remarks, we'll be happy to take a round of questions. During today's call, we will reference a presentation that is available on LP's investor relations website at investor.lpcorp.com. Our 8-K filing, earnings press release, and other materials are also available there. And as always, today's discussion and materials contain forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial metrics, as described on slides two and three of the earnings presentation. The appendix of that presentation also contains reconciliations that are further supplemented by this morning's 8-K filing. Rather than reading those materials, I will incorporate them here by reference. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jason.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thanks, Bob. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to LP's third quarter earnings call. We're glad you could join us. As expected, LP's siding business returned to year-over-year growth in the third quarter. Siding volumes grew by 2%, and net sales grew by 7%, setting a new record for siding net sales and exceeding the high end of our guided range. We delivered that growth despite a 2% decline in single-family housing starts, continuing our long-term track record of gaining share in the markets we serve. Higher siding volumes and prices generated modest EBITDA growth in siding despite a very challenging backdrop, particularly for raw materials and freight inflation. In OSB, we continue to execute our strategy and manage our capacity with discipline, evidenced by our utilization rate of 81% in the quarter and announced curtailments at our Jasper and Milwaukee mills. Slide five of the presentation highlights our financial performance for the quarter. LP generated $691 million in net sales, An increase of $28 million compared to the third quarter of last year driven by siding growth. Total EBITDA was $82 million, which was flat with the prior year despite significant inflationary headwinds. LP generated $112 million in operating cash flow in the quarter, of which we invested $56 million and capital expenditures to maintain our assets and support growing demand for SmartSide and Expert Finish. And then finally, we return $21 million to shareholders through dividends. Before I turn the call over to Aaron for a closer look at LP's financial results, I'd like to highlight a few of the accomplishments and recognition our teams earned during the quarter. Safety is a core value at LP, and I'm extremely proud to share that LP earned the Engineer Wood Association's Safest Company Award for the fourth consecutive year. We continued this momentum for safety in the third quarter, achieving a total incident rate, or TIR, of just 0.4. I'm particularly proud to say that LP's expert finish facility in Royne River, North Carolina, achieved the incredible milestone of one million work hours without a recordable incident. Safety is foundational to our culture here at LP, and these achievements are the result of our focus on continuous improvement with the ultimate goal of creating an injury-free workplace each and every day. With that said, our people are fundamental to LP's success. Great people strengthen our culture, drive innovation, and help us deliver strong results. That's why we work hard to attract and retain exceptional talent and make LP a place where we can all be our best. During the third quarter, we were proud to be recognized by Newsweek as one of America's greatest companies. The recognition considers financial performance, innovation, workplace culture and environmental sustainability. One of our most important achievements this quarter is just beginning to show its impact, and we believe it positions LP exceptionally well for continued growth and share gains. As we announced in early October, we have significantly transformed LP's siting distribution network, expanding our market presence, product support, and geographic reach. Under the new model, specialty building products will provide expanded nationwide coverage for SmartSide and Expert Finish, serving professional dealers, one-step distributors, and retail customers, complemented by distribution partners in designated regional markets. Those include existing LP partners, Bluelinks, Coastal Forest Products, J.M. Thomas Forest Products, Minot Builders Supply, Sherwood Lumber Supply, Taiga Building Products, Wausau Supply Company, Weyerhaeuser, and WS Building Materials, many of whom will grow their coverage at SmartSide. We're also pleased to welcome new partners, Force Products Supply Company and Palmer Donovan. These distributors will carry the full line of LP SmartSide products, including expert finish and a Naturals collection, and transition away from competing siding products. Our SmartSide distribution partners share LP's focus on long-term growth, customer service, and market development. They bring dedicated sales teams, sophisticated logistics networks, and a shared passion for providing installers and homeowners with the best siding and trim products in the industry. And finally, further demonstrating our siding growth and share gains with America's largest home builders, Taylor Morrison named LP as new strategic vendor of the year. We're proud of this recognition and most importantly, proud of our growing partnership with Taylor Morrison and their trust in LP SmartSide and OSB products. After a difficult start to the year, SmartSide is back on a growth footing and we intend to stay here. As Aaron will detail in a few minutes, we anticipate year over year growth in siting volume and revenue in the fourth quarter and while we are not providing guidance for 2027 yet, we believe we are set up for a strong start to the year in all siding market segments. Our return to growth reflects the strength of our strategic relationships with distributors and home builders, the outstanding quality, durability and aesthetics of SmartSide Siding and Trim and most importantly, the hard work of our incredible team. To everyone across LP who helps us execute our Siding Growth Strategy, Thank you. I'm grateful for all that you do and very excited about what we can achieve together. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Aaron for a more detailed review of LP's financial results for the quarter and our updated Q4 and full year outlook.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thanks, Jason, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Slide 7 of the presentation shows citing results for the third quarter in more detail. Average selling prices were up 5% from prior year, adding $23 million in revenue and EBITDA. With the large rebate and mixed benefits from earlier in the year normalizing as expected, higher prices in Q3 were driven primarily by list price increases. As Jason mentioned, siting sales volume increased by 2% overall, while expert finish volume dipped slightly. Expert finish represented 10% of siting volume and 16% of siting revenue in the quarter. Higher volumes added $8 million of revenue and $4 million of EBITDA, consistent with our historical incremental EBITDA margins for volume. As you are all aware, inflation remains a significant headwind for LP and for our customers. Many of LP's raw materials have petrochemical inputs and higher diesel prices impact inbound and outbound freight. The year-over-year increase in raw materials resulted in a negative $12 million EBITDA impact for siding in the third quarter, primarily driven by MDI resin and paper overlay. Freight costs added a further $6 million of negative impact due to higher fuel prices, as well as higher freight rates as trucking capacity remains tight. Raw material costs were modestly higher than we expected on our last call, but more or less in line with the sensitivities we have provided as crude oil prices increased. Despite these inflationary pressures, siting remained modestly price-cost positive in the third quarter. The remaining $9 million in other costs primarily reflect the impacts of planned maintenance projects and falling inventory levels during those outages. Record net sales of $473 million exceeded the top end of our guidance range, as Jason mentioned. However, higher than expected raw material costs kept EBITDA just under the top of our range at $119 million. The resulting adjusted EBITDA margin for siting was just over 25%. Turning to OSB, results are summarized on slide eight. While average OSB selling prices climbed in September, they averaged modestly lower than prior year, resulting in a $7 million year-over-year decline in both revenue and EBITDA. Given the timing of price increases late in the quarter and LP's typical lag as prices move, we expect higher realizations in Q4. OSB volumes increased by 7% in the quarter, but unfavorable mix effects reduced EBITDA by $1 million. Raw material and labor inflation remained a challenge in OSB as well, resulting in a negative $7 million EBITDA impact year over year. Finally, let me spend a minute unpacking the $17 million of other EBITDA benefits. $14 million of this is a result of inventory valuation adjustments. Higher prices at quarter end resulted in favorable lower of cost or market adjustments to our inventory. The EBITDA benefit of those adjustments was magnified by the fact that prices and inventory valuations moved in the opposite direction in the third quarter of last year. Operational excellence and cost discipline contributed another $3 million in savings for SG&A and other items. The net effect of all these factors resulted in revenue of $180 million and an EBITDA loss of $24 million, both slightly above prior year. As you know, LP announced that we would indefinitely curtail our mill in Jasper, Texas, and temporarily idle our mill in Maniwaki, Quebec in the fourth quarter. These capacity reductions were an unfortunate but necessary response to ongoing softness in market demand and they are consistent with our longstanding capacity management strategy. This was in no way a reflection on the excellent teams at those mills and we are grateful for all their contributions to LP. We're working to minimize the impacts of these curtailments on our team members and we look forward to restarting both mills when market conditions support doing so. Turning to cash flow on slide nine, reductions in working capital contributed $48 million in cash in the quarter, primarily from lower inventories of logs and finished goods. This is typical of LP's seasonal working capital cycle. As Jason said, we generated $112 million in operating cash flow, spent 56 million for capital expenditures, returned $21 million to shareholders through dividends, and ended the quarter with $265 million in cash. That left LP with just over a billion dollars in liquidity at quarter end, including our undrawn revolving credit facility. This brings me to our updated guidance for fourth quarter and the full year. As Jason said, we expect modest volume growth to continue for siting in the fourth quarter. I should stress that this growth is not merely the result of inventory load-in in support of our enhanced distribution network. On the contrary, sell-through rates were robust in Q3 as channel inventory contracted, and we believe our order intake in the fourth quarter is reflected of true end use demand. Roughly 3% growth will be mostly price with some negative mix effect and we anticipate revenue in the range of 390 million to 400 million dollars. We expect inflationary pressures to continue in both businesses and our planning seasonal maintenance outages, both of which present cost headwinds. As a result, we expect citing EBITDA in the range of 80 to 90 million dollars for the fourth quarter. We are increasing the lower bounds of the ranges for anticipated revenue and EBITDA for the full year. We now expect siding revenue for the year to land between $1.66 billion and $1.67 billion, down about 1% compared to prior year, with higher prices almost completely offsetting lower volumes. We expect full year siding EBITDA to land between $415 million and $425 million. For OSB, we will offer our usual algorithmic guidance predicated on prices remaining flat at current levels. Assuming prices remain flat through year end, we would expect the OSB segment to lose about $35 million in EBITDA in the fourth quarter, as most of the favorable other impact in Q3 is non-recurring. Full-year EBITDA outlook has improved to about a $95 million loss, with lower volumes and higher input costs partially offsetting increased selling prices. I should mention as a housekeeping note relative to OSB guidance that the volume and price sensitivities have been updated to reflect anticipated Q4 sales volumes and raw material costs. We now anticipate full-year EBITDA for LP of between $270 million and $280 million, reflecting both the Q3 results and recent improvements in siting and OSB outlook compared to prior guidance. In conclusion, LP's team members are effectively executing our strategy against what remains a very challenging backdrop for housing affordability and raw material inflation. And I want to echo Jason's comments and add my appreciation for everyone at LP who contributes to our progress and helps grow our culture of safety, sustainability, and operational and commercial excellence. And with that, we will be happy to take your questions.
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Our first question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley with Barclays. Your line is now open.
Matthew Bouley
Barclays
Morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. I'll start out with a question here on kind of the volume outlook and the new distribution and all that. I think I heard you say that the fourth quarter guidance is not due to sort of an extra inventory load-in. Maybe you can kind of separate out the sort of sell-through trends to date. and any kind of quantification around that load-in. And I guess along those lines, maybe if you could just kind of expand how your geographic coverage more broadly has changed as a result of these distribution changes. Thank you.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thanks, Matt. I'll touch on that kind of broadly from a distribution perspective. So the overarching goal as we kind of approached this initiative was to Really simplify and expand our distribution network with partners that really desire to be exclusive to LP SmartSide as their hard cladding solution. As we went through this process, we were very fortunate to have multiple options and ultimately are very pleased with where we landed. We do expect the changes to result in a distribution network that is fully aligned to our commercial strategy, which we believe has tremendous potential to enhance our focus, to enhance collaboration, and then ultimately sales execution over the long haul. As it relates to the load-in, that is something that is in process right now. We are executing a phased-in approach, so really to minimize the impact of a one-time event. So this will be over the next, I would say, two quarters, maybe even three. So we're working with our current and new distribution partners to do that the best way we know possible, knowing that it's more of an art than a science. The first part of your question was around sell-through rates, I believe. Maybe I'll touch on expert finish first. Yes, volumes right now for the year are anticipated. Our shipments are anticipated to be flat year over year. But you may recall that we were on a managed order file to begin the year. And based on our history being on a managed order file, it does take some time to change market perceptions on supply. So we went through that. But Our distributors are reporting sell-through rates that are positive year over year versus prior year quarter. We're up 8%. And then when you compare Q3 to Q2 of this year, we're actually up 13%. So seeing a nice trend there. And then on the prime side, we're also seeing sell-through rates that are comparable to prior year. which is encouraging just given the softness in the market.
Matthew Bouley
Barclays
Got it. Okay. Well, thank you for all that detail in addressing my, I guess, multi-part question there. Secondly, sticking with siding, you know, given the inflationary backdrop and presumably it's kind of choppy in market demand, in my words, How do you think about pricing into early 2027 and kind of what do you think you need to do from here in order to offset the level of inflation we're seeing out there? Thank you.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, so that's something obviously we've kept an eye on for the majority of the year. We've been fortunate to be price-cost positive up until the beginning of Q4. Obviously, that's turning around on us in Q4. So all of that was factored into the price increase that we announced in early October. As of today, we're anticipating netting roughly 3.5% to 4% on a similar mix to 2026, with Prime's smart side being a hair higher than what we're anticipating on the expert finish side. And in terms of when we expect to realize those Price changes. Right now, based on our order file, we're expecting shipments to go out with the new prices sometime in early to mid-January.
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Thank you.
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Our next question comes from the line of Keaton Mamatora with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Keaton Mamatora
BMO Capital Markets
Good morning, Jason, Aaron. Just to follow up to Matt's question, do you have any sort of pre-buy built into Q4? In the past, it used to be like 110% of what we typically buy. Is that sort of still the case in Q4 volumes?
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Keaton, thanks for the question. What I would say about Q4 of this year is it's a little bit more complex than prior years because obviously we're working through the distribution changes, so we're working with those partners that will be exiting us throughout the quarter to manage their inventories down, get as much of that transferred to our new distributors, and then looking at historical demand by region to manage the load in appropriately with our new partners. So it is a little bit more complex or dynamic relative to what we've done in recent years, but we're keeping a very close eye on those channel inventories and working with current and existing distributors as we go through the process.
Keaton Mamatora
BMO Capital Markets
and then just as a follow-up you know and recognizing that you all are not giving 2027 guidance at the moment but you know if you just look at you know turn to 2027 with the housing backdrop and the interest rates where they are can you give us some framework in terms of how you think about You know, kind of volumes next year, if starts are, let's say, down with single digits. Is there a way for us to think about, you know, sort of outperforming the broad housing market?
Trevor Allinson
Wolf Research
Yeah, I'll take that one, Keaton.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
As you said, we are not giving guidance for 2027 yet, but on the last call, we did update everyone on a multi-year historical performance for SmartSide for both volume and revenue relative to single family starts. Thank you for joining us. but it's merely a reflection of our historical performance and that's what gives us confidence in the product and our teams to deliver.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Philip Singh with Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Philip Ng
Jefferies
Hey guys. You talked about this new partnership with Taylor Morrison. Can you explain what that exactly entails? Is it deciding OSB, a bundling effort and perhaps any early look in terms of the contribution and potential ramp for next year?
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, thanks, Philip. I'll touch on that briefly. So, you know, we've done business with Taylor Morrison for a number of years and, you know, prior calls we've talked a fair amount about our enterprise programs and how we're really leveraging the breadth of our entire portfolio to position programs with builders of scale in a way that will allow us to get greater access to markets where we've historically been underpenetrated. So we worked closely with TM over the course of the past year or so to structure a program that met their needs and ours and are just very pleased with the progress to date and really look forward to Growing the partnership, again, in those markets where it's beneficial for Taylor Morrison and LP over the long haul. Okay.
Philip Ng
Jefferies
Helpful. And then, Jason, you provided some helpful insights in terms of your order book and visibility. It sounds, you know, generally pretty construction and particularly exciting, but clearly, you know, where mortgage rates are at and builder sentiment deteriorating, what How does that play into your outlook, what you're seeing? Have your customers talked about working down inventory? And then on the flip side, R&R is certainly a little more murky. Any color in terms of your contractors, your dealers, what they're seeing on the R&R side of things as we kind of look out the 27?
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, so maybe I'll just touch on the first part of the question regarding the outlook and where channel inventories stand. So from a primed smart side perspective, we are seeing channel inventories actually come down versus prior quarter and prior year. Same with expert finish, but I would still classify them as seasonally normal, but again, trending a little bit lighter. This is obviously fluid with some of the changes going on with our distribution network. But we're going to manage that closely as we work through the load-in. In terms of looking ahead to next year, really what we're paying close attention to is the sell-through rates that our distributors report to us on a monthly basis. And that gives us confidence that the share gains that we're after in the segments we play in, off-site repair, remodel, and new construction, are going to carry out into the new year. We're doing our best to minimize all the noise that you mentioned earlier and just focus on the long term and driving share gains in all the market segments that we plan.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Ramsey with Thompson Research Group. Your line is now open.
Brian Barros
Thompson Research Group
Hey, good morning. This is actually Brian Barros on for Steven. Thank you for taking my questions today. First of all, I guess with your pricing moves and siting and I guess the decisions you've made or not made in this kind of rising commodity input cost environment here, how do you assess the benefits in share capture at this point?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Brian, thanks. That's a good question. It is very hard to quantify what Thank you. Thank you.
Brian Barros
Thompson Research Group
Similar related question, I guess, just with the new distribution deals you've announced. Does this enable you to capture share in a maybe better way than before? Are you seeing any large builders or retailers kind of maybe more enticed to come to you for product? I mean, you talked a little bit about this in the prepared marks and some of the other questions. But I guess just what are you looking for in the near and medium term to, I guess, measure the difference and ultimately, I guess, the benefits of these moves? Thank you.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
I'll touch on that. I think the largest benefit is just going to come from an alignment perspective to our strategy. If you think about our new distribution footprint, it's over 100 locations, 12 or 13 different partners. If you add up their entire field sales organization, it's much larger than what We have here at LP. So it's an opportunity really for us to drive or to create an extension of our sales force, getting our distribution partners more dialed into our downstream demand creation efforts and helping pull through new customers. So I think regardless of how you look at it, it's definitely going to be a net benefit as we think about the future.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Roland with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.
Mike Rowe
Truist Securities
Thank you, Jason, Aaron, and Bob, for taking my questions. Jason, you mentioned a phased-in approach to the new distributors, which could take the next two to three quarters. Can you talk about the cost impact, the result of that transition, and also what impact do you expect on signing volumes? Sorry, Mike, could you repeat the question? Sure, you mentioned in terms of this whole, with specialty building products and all the other distributors you laid out there, a phased approach in terms of the transition, in terms of working through with your existing distributors, working through inventories, and then ultimately, obviously working with your new distributors, excuse me, over a certain period of time. You said this transition from old to new could take about two to three quarters. Is there a cost impact at all in terms of making this transition, and is there anything from a sliding volume perspective that we should be aware of as you make this transition as well?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
No, as Jason said, we're trying to phase it in so that there isn't a large step function increase in volume. We're trying to minimize that. In terms of a cost impact, it should be very minimal. So no, I think that... Our goal as we make this transition is to make it clear that the volumes that we ship are reflective of true end-use demand so that we don't create more noise than is inherent in a process like this.
Mike Rowe
Truist Securities
Got it. Okay, makes sense, Aaron. And just one quick one. Matawaki, did I hear correctly when you said that's going to be indefinitely curtailed as well, or is that a mill that you're taking down for 4Q and then it should restart next year?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
It's the latter. Jasper is an indefinite curtailment. Maniwaki is temporarily idled. And this has no impact whatsoever in terms of the attractiveness of Maniwaki as a potential future siting location.
Mike Rowe
Truist Securities
Got it. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mike.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeff Stevenson with Loop Capital. Your line is now open.
Jeff Stevenson
Loop Capital
Hey, thanks for taking my questions today. Can you talk about how shed sell-through demand in your siding business trended after a slow start to the year and what your expectations are for in-market demand as we move through the remainder of 2026?
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, happy to elaborate on that, Jeff. When you look at our shed segment, obviously we started the year A little rough, but we have rebounded nicely throughout the course of the second half of the year after our distribution partners, along with the shed fabricators and dealers, went through a rebalancing act of their inventories. We do pay close attention to sell-through rates at a dealer level. A lot of that is anecdotal feedback for us, but we are We do feel like the underlying segment as a whole is pretty flat year over year. So our focus really continues to be on growing our share of wallet with all the shed fabricators that are partners of LP. So that would be opportunities to grow in flooring and roofing and trim beyond the panel market share that we enjoy. We do believe that we'll be back on a growth trend as we look to the future and are excited about the off-site segment as it relates to our site and growth strategy.
Jeff Stevenson
Loop Capital
Great. No, that's very helpful. And then second, do you believe that margin pressure that production builders continue to see from ongoing buyer incentives to could slow the pace of channel share gains for alternative siding products such as SmartSide in lieu of traditional materials like vinyl as they look to reduce costs if we see another challenging year of single-family starts next year.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, maybe, Jeff. With vinyl producers taking mid-year price increases, that has probably blunted that effect somewhat. But there's an and offsetting potential benefit that we could see as well for the same reason. We're beginning to see more evidence of preference shift away from BRIC because it's so labor intensive and so expensive. So, you know, I think that there are some ways that LP could actually benefit from that ongoing margin pressure as well. So we're watching it. And, you know, we've certainly seen margin pressure before and have historically outperformed the market. That's what we intend to continue to do.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Susan McClary with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Susan McClary
Goldman Sachs
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is going back to pricing and siting. I think you mentioned that you expect about a 3.5% to 4% price benefit in 27 on top of mix. Can you talk a bit about what that assumes in terms of an inflationary backdrop and how How you're generally thinking about price cost as we look to the next couple of quarters and how much mix could benefit you?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, Sue, I'll take that one. Price cost is going to be most challenged in the fourth quarter because raw materials continue to be a headwind and also because the impacts we've been talking about all year in terms of You know, the disproportionately large positive price mix effect we saw in the first quarter due to low shed volumes and some rebate adjustments and things like that. All of those effects are normalizing a little bit into the back half of the year. But Jason mentioned our price increase for next year. I think under anything but very negative changes for raw materials next year, we should be healthily price cost positive as we head into the next year.
Susan McClary
Goldman Sachs
Okay. All right. That's helpful. My second question is on OSB. Think about the changes that you've announced on the production side there. Are there any implications from that to structural solutions? Can you just talk more broadly about the demand environment for structural solutions given the slowdown in single family starts that we're seeing?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Sure. Well, as Jason said, we picked the The mills that we idled were a portfolio decision rather than a mill-specific decision, and structural solutions mix was a component of that decision. But what I would say is that what we have been seeing in an environment where homebuilder margins have been compressed is there's been a bit of a preference shift to more commodity OSB products. It's a little counterintuitive that absolute price for structural solutions is lower than but the percent premium to step up from commodity is larger. And so that has explained the mixed effect that you saw in the third quarter. But I would say our capacity decisions are much more related to overall demand than any kind of structural solutions dynamic.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from Sean Stewart with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. A couple questions, and thanks for all the detail in the deciding market context, but I'm going to start with CapEx, Aaron. You guys have lowered your 2026 guide, and it's on the maintenance side, the sustaining maintenance side. Should we view that as a deferral of maintenance projects, or are there any read-throughs in terms of the structural shift in how you're thinking about that expense?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
No real structural changes, largely deferrals. One of the benefits of a flexible program is that we can adjust, as we have for the past couple of years, in response to market needs. But idling one facility indefinitely and another one for a short period of time also lets us defer any of the projects that we had planned for those facilities. So no structural change to that, just pretty consistent with the way we try to be agile and flexible as we manage our CapEx. and I should reinforce no change in growth capital either. Sorry to step on you there, Sean. We're full speed ahead on North Branch.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Understood. And appreciating there's no urgency for whether it's Maniwaki or something else in terms of the next siting conversion. But is there any, and we'll get this, I imagine, with the February guidance for 27, but is there any... Spending for preliminary work on a next site conversion that would be anticipated in the near term?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Not a significant amount. We'll get more detail when we get to the February call, as you said. What I want to say is that we, as always, we want to have siting capacity available a little bit before we need it, hopefully not too long before we need it. But wherever the next capacity is added, it'll be a longer duration project than our previous conversions have been. And so that spend will start a little bit earlier relative to new capacity coming online than previous projects. But we'll have a lot more detail for that as we head into next year and as we get closer to, you know, to the project really being underway.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kurt Yinger with Davidson. Your line is now open.
Kurt Yinger
D.A. Davidson
Great, thanks, and good morning, guys. I believe these winter months are typically pretty active in terms of RFPs from the big builders, so just love to hear maybe some initial thoughts about the potential to kind of build off existing or adding to new kind of enterprise partnerships as we move into 2027.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thanks, Kurt. Yeah, you're right. We're in the midst of RFP season now and have a handful of programs that we're working on with builders of scale, and that includes manufactured housing producers as well. What I would say, Kurt, is that these programs are progressing nicely. They look promising at this point. We're hopeful to have a little bit more to share at the next call. but the main point I would say as it relates to our enterprise approach is that the bundling of our broad portfolio is truly resonating with these customers. They value the installation efficiencies, the durability, the quality that the SmartSide brand is known for and then the other benefit is we are beginning to see evidence of a halo effect from The expanded positions with dealers in under-penetrated markets for SmartSide. So we're very excited about the opportunity to build our business around those stocking dealer positions in new markets. So progressing nicely. You never know how these programs are going to unfold, but we should have more information over the course of the next 30 to 60 days.
Kurt Yinger
D.A. Davidson
Okay, that's great. Thanks for that, Jason. And Aaron, maybe just on OSB, I mean, I know there's a lot of moving pieces with the inventory adjustment and prices by region are up different amounts. But if we just look at the composite, I mean, it's seen a pretty big move the last couple months. And I'm just wondering if there are any other kind of big offsets in the Q4 guide related to the curtailments or maintenance that might be Eating into that otherwise more favorable pricing dynamic.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
I think I mentioned most of them in the prepared remarks. Obviously, our volumes are going to be lower in the fourth quarter as a result of those curtailments. Also, within price, we've seen a larger increase in thinner products than in thicker products. Flooring prices haven't gone up as much, which is a little bit of a drag for us. and of course raw materials continue to be a bit of a headwind. So no, I think we covered most of the big moving pieces in there.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Trevor Allenson of Wolf Research. Your line is now open.
Trevor Allinson
Wolf Research
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. First one's on your 4Q siding revenue guidance. It does seem like it's a bit below normal seasonal trends, but it sounds like from your commentary here that demand remains pretty healthy. Is that a little bit lower than seasonal number just driven by some of the channel inventory dynamics that you were talking about, those moving a bit lower? Is it just some conservatism reflecting a very uncertain macro? Any color you can provide there on the sequential trends?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Well, I mean, there's perhaps a little bit of conservatism in there, but it's within the normal range of seasonal falloff as we head into the winter months. Jason, I think, reinforced what we're seeing from a sell-through rate standpoint. And we've seen pretty consistent end-use demand, which is very encouraging. One of the effects of trying to phase in the inventory is we're trying to avoid a large load-in, which, of course, would show up as revenue. So we're trying to be cautious not just about levels of conservatism, but also We don't want to perturb the inventory channel any more than necessary as we transition to a new distribution network. So I really think it's the result of all of those factors, Trevor.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, one point there. I mean, we learned a hard lesson Q4 of last year, and ultimately we're trying not to repeat that. So maybe a little bit of conservatism in there, but it's a tough balancing act given the distribution changes.
Trevor Allinson
Wolf Research
Yeah, makes sense. Thanks for that, Culler. And then second question is just on your views on your own OSB capacity here and industry capacity. You made the Jasper announcement before rates jumped, but now you've since made a Milwaukee announcement. How are you thinking about your own OSB capacity currently in light of housing starts potentially being down next year? And then a similar question, just kind of industry capacity, if you think there needs to be any more moves there.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, I'll touch on that one. So if you think about our operating position leading up to the Jasper and Maniwaki curtailments, we were operating roughly in the 75-ish percent range from a network utilization standpoint. So we were doing everything we could to balance our capacity with LP customer demand and while keeping a close eye on projections for the future. And as the year went on and single family starts retracted further, we felt the need to really look at our network and optimize it to the extent we needed to to position the business for a further down cycle in OSB. So we've We think we're set up nicely going into 2027 and are going through the committed volume process currently to sure up our contract strategy and figure out how much open market wood we'll have to sell in 2027.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of George Staffos with Bank of America. Your line is now open.
George Staphos
Bank of America
Hi, everyone. Good morning. Jumping on the line here late at an industry conference. This may have been already asked. First of all, Aaron, congratulations and looking forward to working with you now in the role. Congrats on the first conference call. I would say as regards inflation, have you adjusted any of your sensitivity rates that you've provided in the past relative to what we've seen in the last You know, nine months, six months, and for that matter, your operating stance and how that might have impacted your sensitivity to oil and the like. Relatedly, have you been working on ways to maybe engineer the product differently or adjust your supply chain so that maybe you don't have quite the same, you know, cost sensitivity with oil and the like, or is it just about raising pricing and then how to follow on?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, thanks, George. Tackle some of that. In terms of sensitivity to crude oil prices, no, those really haven't been adjusted. Crude oil prices themselves have been pretty volatile, as everybody understands. I think the October average was up about $20 relative to the price point on our August call, and it's fallen about $5 or $6 since that in the past few days. So that explains some of the headwinds that we've seen. In terms of our guidance sensitivities, yes, we made some adjustments that we described in their prepared remarks and are detailed in the footnote on the guidance slide to reflect lower expected volumes in the fourth quarter because of the curtailment and also slightly lower margins than in the guide because of raw materials. In terms of engineering the product, there are some opportunities there and we've got excellent teams in our operations team that are looking at opportunities there. We use MDI resin exclusively in siting because it performs really, really well. And so we don't have too many opportunities there, and we certainly don't want to dial down the dosage rate or do rash things like that in the near term. But yeah, I would say broadly we're looking at opportunities, but there's not a whole lot we can do to offset most of the fluctuations in crude oil and similar inputs.
George Staphos
Bank of America
Okay. And then again, if this already came up in the dialogue, happy to look at the transcript, but if not, have you been getting any more commentary questions from your customers regarding Class A fire certification and whether at some point you'll want to have that in the market sooner than later? Or is it really not a factor at this juncture? Obviously, it's only going to be a big deal in certain regions if it's a deal at all. But how would you have us think about it? What are your customers asking about that? And when would you be ready, perhaps, with a Class A rated product? Thank you. Good luck in the quarter.
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, I would say there's been more of a focus on some of the WE codes, really because of some of the changes that were made in the state of Colorado. What I would say about our sales specifically is when you look at our sales so far out west year to date where WUI has been a factor for many years, we have yet to see any sort of change in sell-through rates relative to housing starts. So it's something that we're keeping a close eye on. We're also doing everything we can to defend our position through educating local authorities on the value proposition, the smart side, while in parallel, to your point, working on NPD initiatives that would potentially open up new markets for LP in the future with a fire solution. But what I would say is these codes apply to a very small portion of the addressable market. It's something we're keeping a close eye on, but hasn't affected our growth trajectory.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Baumgardner with Vertical Research. Hey, guys. Good morning. Your line is now open.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Hey, guys. Good morning. Just, Aaron, back to your prior comment around price cost into next year. Just to clarify, you said that with the pricing you expect to execute, and I'm assuming where inputs are today, rolling that forward, you expect to be price cost positive for the year. Does that include the early part of the year when these price increases go effective?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yes. As Jason said, we expect to be realizing those price increases early mid-January. So, yes.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Okay, got it. And then just on MDI, there's been some chatter out there that maybe prices are moderating a little bit sequentially with some of the force majeures coming off and capacity coming back up. Are you starting to see that or hear that from your suppliers as you move through the fourth quarter here?
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
We see the same news you do, and of course we're optimistic about that. But as we've discussed on prior calls, our supply contracts tend to have lagging algorithmic adjustments in them. We don't pay spot for many of these raw materials in the short term. So if those trends continue and if MDI spot prices stay lower for some period of time, then we'll certainly see that in our purchase prices. So fingers crossed those trends continue.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Okay, got it. Thanks. Best of luck, guys.
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Thank you. Thanks, Adam. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Weintraub with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open. Thank you.
Trevor Allinson
Wolf Research
Thank you. So you've articulated that with the musical chairs going on in distribution, you feel it's a net positive. That's certainly how I've interpreted it. but presumably there are puts and takes.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Can you sort of help us understand where the benefits are that are going to outweigh any possible negatives?
Jason Ringblom
Chief Executive Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, there's certainly puts and takes, Mike. But when you look at the magnitude of this change relative to what we've gone through in our past, it's not of the same scale. But we really were focused on finding exclusive partners to the SmartSide brand. And we were able to achieve that, which is going to create that better alignment around our strategy and improve execution. So even though there have been some musical chairs, we think the partners that we've aligned with are now are going to be loyal to promoting the SmartSide brand and more dialed into our downstream demand creation strategy. So yes, there are some new partners that will have to get educated and onboarded, no different than some of the changes we've made in the past, but that's a pretty quick process and we believe we'll be off to the races to start 2027.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Yeah, I think the term is going to be near term. The negative is just the noise during the transition. Longer term, we've got greater geographic reach, greater exclusivity. It's a long-term positive.
Keaton Mamatora
BMO Capital Markets
Okay, thank you.
Sean Stewart
TD Cowen
Thank you.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew McKellar with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Matthew McKellar
RBC Capital Markets
Hi, good morning. Thanks for all the details so far. Just following up on a comment you made about a preference shift away from BRIC, given that labor intensity and cost, I think BRIC has seemingly been donating some share in New Resi over the past few years. Can you give us any more detail on how material or abrupt that preference shift you're seeing is? Thanks very much.
Aaron Howald
Chief Financial Officer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
That's a good question, Matt. It's not very abrupt, and so far it's pretty small, but it's an encouraging trend. you know the brick is very expensive and certainly if you drive around Nashville you see a lot of white brick homes nobody makes white bricks so those homes have been painted if you're going to paint a substrate brick is an extremely expensive substrate to paint so you know as those trends continue we'll begin to see a little bit of an expansion in our addressable market it'll be geographically patchy there are some markets that are stronger or weaker for brick it's not going to be a It's not going to be a massive driver of growth for us, but it does expand the addressable market. It does increase the geographies and the markets where SmartSide can play. And it reinforces the value proposition for our product being very durable and very efficient to install. So we're optimistic that that trend will continue.
Matthew McKellar
RBC Capital Markets
Thank you for the color. I'll pass it back.
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Thanks, Matt. Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Bob Hopkins, treasurer of Louisiana Pacific Corporation, for closing remarks.
Bob Hopkins
Treasurer, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation
Thank you, operator. With no more questions, we'll end the call there. Thank you all for joining us and look forward to speaking with you soon.
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