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National Bank Holdings Corporation Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
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Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
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Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
We remained disciplined in managing deposit costs with only one basis point of deposit cost increase for the quarter and ended September with a low cost of deposits of 1.96%. Total cost of funds increased two basis points to 2.03% for the quarter. The loan to deposit ratio ended the quarter at 93.8%. Turning to asset quality. We recorded $40.6 million of provision expense to cover the quarter's elevated net charge-offs. As previously disclosed, third quarter net charge-offs totaled $46.3 million, reflecting actions taken on specific commercial loans following adverse credit events during the quarter. These credits also resulted in non-performing assets increasing by 15 basis points, or $15 million. Additionally, we hold $14.3 million of marks against our acquired loan portfolio, which provides an additional 15 basis points of loan loss coverage if applied across the entire loan book. Turning to fee income, non-interest income totaled $13.5 million, and as previously disclosed, was impacted by a $4 million impairment on one third-party FinTech investment. All this will share more on fee income momentarily. We expect fourth quarter fee income to be in the range of $17 to $18 million. Non-interest expense totaled $97.8 million for the quarter and included $15.2 million of acquisition and restructuring expenses. Excluding these one-time items, non-interest expense was $82.6 million A decrease of $1.1 million from the prior quarter. The third quarter included one additional payroll day compared to the second quarter and included elevated problem loan expense of $1.4 million for the quarter. We have fully executed on our cost saving strategies and as a result of our strong execution, we expect a clean expense run rate in the fourth quarter with core non-interest expense in the range of $75 to $77 million. Our capital levels remain well in excess of well-capitalized regulatory thresholds. Common equity tier one ratio ended the quarter at 11.7% and our total capital ratio was 14.7%. The tangible common equity ratio ended the quarter at 9.2%. Tangible book value per share was $25.37, reflecting the quarterly dividend payout and $12 million of share repurchases during the quarter. Importantly, we continue to target quarterly earnings in excess of a dollar per share in the fourth quarter. With that, I will turn the call over to Aldis.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
Thank you, Nicole. Let me begin with credit. As Tim shared, this was a disappointing quarter for us, and we recognize the importance of addressing both the immediate issues and their underlying clauses. This quarter's loan losses were concentrated in the franchise and healthcare verticals within our specialty banking group. So over the past 12 months, we have top graded our specialty banking team leadership and during the third quarter, we conducted additional in-depth reviews and implemented further enhancements across our credit risk governance. These steps are intended to strengthen accountability, and improve consistency on how risk is identified, escalated and managed. Throughout the year, we also have diversified these portfolios and our current exposure is limited to approximately 5% of total loans in franchise and approximately 3% in healthcare finance. During the quarter, we also executed on a new model for serving small business clients. Under the new model, we will lean more heavily into our banking center network with an increased focus on deposit gathering. The objective is to create a more consistent client experience and align resources more closely with the needs and economics of this segment. We expect these organizational changes to reduce our operating expenses by approximately $4 million annually. Turning to the loan book. On an annualized basis, loans grew 5% during the quarter, bringing year-to-date growth to 8.1%. Early in the quarter, our team successfully completed the VISTA core system integration, an important milestone that positions us to operate on a unified platform and focus fully on serving clients. With this achievement behind us, our teams are focused on growth and our pipelines continue to build heading into the fourth quarter. We remain on track to deliver 10% loan growth for full year 2026. Achieving that level of growth would take our total loans outstanding to about $10.1 billion by year end. Average deposits grew a solid 3.7% annualized during the quarter, led by 4.6% annualized growth in average transaction deposits, reflecting continued strength in our core deposit franchise and our focus on growing high-quality relationship-based funding. This favorable deposit mix combined with disciplined balance sheet management contributed to a strong 4% net interest margin for the quarter. And finally, turning to the fee income, the underlying performance of our core banking business remains solid. During the quarter, combined service charges and bank card fees grew at an annualized rate of 12%, reflecting continued momentum from these recurring revenue streams. Additionally, we continue to see solid contributions from our Canberra and Trust and Wealth teams. On the strength of our core franchise, improving operating discipline, and growing client pipelines, we entered the fourth quarter with the confidence in our ability to build on this momentum. Tim, with that, I will turn it back to you.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Thanks, Aldis. Well, we've covered a lot of detail in our opening comments, so why don't I go ahead and open up the call for questions.
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Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Thanks. Good morning.
Jeff Rulis
Analyst, D.A. Davidson
Good morning. Just I guess the first fit on credit. Just to kind of, if you could, could you itemize the size of those credits, both in the franchise and healthcare, the resolution path ahead? And then lastly, expectation for net charge off levels going forward, or is this sort of in the rear view? Thanks.
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Jeff, good morning. This is Nicole. So related to your charge-off question on the credits that we addressed in the third quarter, we addressed the principal balance credits totaling about $65 million and we took net charge-offs on those credits of about $47 million. That leaves a remaining balance of $18 million on our books related to those credits and those are supported by collateral and personal guarantees of the borrowers.
Jeff Rulis
Analyst, D.A. Davidson
Okay, just the makeup of the $65 million in credits, what was franchise and what was healthcare? Or what's left?
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Jeff, I'll start with high level and then perhaps Aldis can fill in with a bit more detail. But when you size this up and we talk about a handful of credits, The reality is this was an event primarily centered in two credits, one franchise, one healthcare. The franchise, of course, was this Qdoba Dave's Hot Chicken franchise that we have dealt with where the first issues, frankly, came to light in July by August 2020. We were in a process of seeing some retrading on really the sell of the collateral involved to cover our loan exposure and found ourselves with a deficit and quite frankly found ourselves in that situation in a position where we believed it was merited to file suspicious activity reports and address what we believe is Client Fraud. In the other situation, it was a healthcare related event that we had dealt with in the fourth quarter of last year, had conducted a full restructure with the client, brought in a third party consultant, believes management was in a position to move the company forward with one of its other divisions, and frankly, that The process ran out of steam and left us in a position of working with the borrower to take the company into bankruptcy. Those are the two big drivers. I don't know if you want to discuss the breakdown as it relates to the rest of the franchise. By the way, we do not view these as some indication of systemic problems. As a practical matter, When we review our credit policies and practices, our risk management policies and practices over the life of our company, they served us well. These were cases where, frankly, the bankers involved did not execute on our policies and practices, and those bankers are no longer with us.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
Yeah, Jeff, off that 65 that Nicole mentioned, approximately 45% is healthcare, 45% is franchises.
Jeff Rulis
Analyst, D.A. Davidson
Thank you, Aldis. And the net charge-off question was going forward. We got it in the release, what you charged off. But the expectation for just the overall bank ahead and the charge-off expectations, is there any further cleanup or we revert to sort of historical levels, Q4 and beyond?
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, our expectation is that we've addressed what needed to be addressed this quarter such that we expect normalized levels going forward.
Jeff Rulis
Analyst, D.A. Davidson
Thanks. And then Aldis, if I could hop to the margin, or Nicole, sorry. Was there any impact on the margin in terms of loans placed on non-accrual in terms of lost interest? And then on the outlook, sounds like around four, if you could outline, should we have another rate hike, what the impact of that would be? Thanks.
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yes. Yeah, I'll take that one, Jeff. So yeah, you're heading on a few good points of, you know, consistently there will be puts and takes to our margin. We did have some interest reversals in margin for the quarter. We also had some pickup from accelerated accretion. I will say those two kind of washed in the quarter. We exited September with a 4% margin. and our expectation is that we'll be able to hold that for Q4. Regarding your question of what do we expect the impact to margin will be with future rate changes, I will take us back to the last time that we were in a rates up environment. We were successful at maintaining our deposit costs and through that rates up cycle, We held a deposit beta of under 40%. So we believe we'll continue to be able to be disciplined on our deposit pricing.
Jeff Rulis
Analyst, D.A. Davidson
Thanks, Nicole. If I could squeeze one more in there. On the merger costs, any chance you could map those in terms of did a lot of that come in the comp or other, just trying to back that out of the current quarter?
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I'll say it's largely been concentrated within the compensation and benefits line. There's really impacts hitting in all lines, you know, occupancy and equipment, processing fees, and professional fees, but the bulk of what hit the third quarter and, frankly, for the year has been in personnel expense.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, Jeff.
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We will go next to Kelly Mata with KBW.
Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
Hey, good morning. On your core expense guide of $75 to $77 million for Q4, you also noted there was about $4 million annual benefit from some of the changes you've made in the business. I know you have the benefit of the post-conversion expense run rate. Just wondering what of the $4 million benefit might be already baked into that Q4 number. Thanks.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
It is, Kelly. So that $4 million that I talked about in terms of reorganization and how we go to market for business banking or small business is embedded. And along to what Nicole was saying, it will show up mostly in the benefits and salaries line.
Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
Got it. That's helpful. And then with the credit, it was obviously a disappointing quarter. You've noted you've made some changes, some changes in personnel and exposure is fairly limited at this point. Just wondering if as part of the identified issues and changes, if you've done a third party review of these books or if there's What gives you comfort that this is now behind you? Thanks.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we delved in quite closely to the full portfolio with a very much closer eye to the portfolio originated by the bankers that Tim mentioned. Our loan review team, our SAG team, our credit officers have gone through it, and we feel Very comfortable where we are today with a portfolio looking forward. I will say also that throughout the year, we've worked very hard on turning that book away from either brands or operators that we didn't like, to put it bluntly. And $150 million of the franchise book is being turned over year to date.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
And I think that's an important point, Kelly, is This isn't a process that just began in the third quarter. We've been working this franchise exposure since the fourth quarter of last year and, again, have methodically exited over $150 million of exposure that we felt was not originated against the standards that we're comfortable with.
Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
Okay, got it. And then your release noted the expected sale of the Palm Beach location. Just wondering if, I think you gave the loans and I believe the deposits associated with this action expected to take place next year, but wondering overall financial impact, you know, if there's maybe some additional expenses that come out. Thanks.
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I'll take that. It will end up having minimal impact to our earnings per share. There will be some expenses that come out. I think it should be right around half a million. No, it's two million.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
It's two million, half a million, you're thinking, because of the timing of this. But on an annualized basis, it's about two million of operating expense that comes off the books, again, on an annualized basis. As we mentioned in the release, about $200 million of loans and deposits. You apply 4% margin, you can see what the revenue is given up. So to Nicole's point, once you net that out, it's really nominal EPS impact.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
And I would just add strategically, look, it's a fine operation, a solid... smaller team and you know what we believe is we can generate greater returns focusing on our core markets and continuing to build those core markets and so we were able to really create a win-win transaction here with the team that has run that bank and we think we've ended up in a very transaction for both parties so that's where I would leave that.
Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
Got it. That's helpful. I guess last question for me, it looks like the fee guidance is a bit lighter than maybe what was implied for the full year. I imagine maybe some weakness in mortgage obviously has something to do with that. Just wondering if you could kind of break down the changes in the outlook here today versus what you may have been expecting a quarter or two ago. Thanks.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
You picked up on the main driver in a change and that one is the mortgage. Residential mortgage business suddenly has been impacted by the steeper and higher rate environment. Conventional mortgages being about 7%, the gain on sale or secondary market is quite tough. Having said that, we have seen a bit more volume go on the portfolio. You can see that in our loan tables. We had a nice portfolio growth in the residential mortgage. But in terms of gain on sale, it is tougher going, especially going in the fourth quarter, that seasonally low quarter.
Kelly Motta
Analyst, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods
Got it. Thank you so much.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Thank you, Kelly.
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We will go next to Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Hey, thank you. Good morning.
Matthew Clark
Analyst, Piper Sandler
Just on the, you mentioned churning over, churning about $150 million on the franchise side. How much did you kind of churn or de-risk within the healthcare portfolio? I guess that's my first question. Thanks.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
Yeah, Matthew, actually a similar dollar amount, $150 million exit in healthcare throughout the year. The portfolio is down on healthcare $100 million year-to-date. So, back to getting 100% or 10% long growth. That's something that we consciously have been working behind the scenes to do risk the portfolio in general, but continue to meet our long growth targets.
Matthew Clark
Analyst, Piper Sandler
Okay, great. And then just around the series of personnel changes, did that include a new chief credit officer? And if so, has he had a kind of had a look at the overall portfolio and blessed it or is that process still underway?
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
We have brought in a new chief credit officer over the last year and a half and he has certainly engaged unlike ever before in all of the detailed reviews that have been conducted. We did exit a number of senior credit officers that were involved in and, frankly, the oversight of the bankers that have also moved on. And, you know, obviously those are painful actions, but actions we felt necessary to ensure that our policies and practices when it comes to risk management are respected and well executed.
Matthew Clark
Analyst, Piper Sandler
Great. and then just criticized loans or assets, you know, where they stood at the end of September. I think they were, according to the Q, $298 million or 3.05% at the end of June.
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
Yeah, criticized assets at the end of September were 3.4%, so a slight uptick, but classified, I'll say, were flat to prior quarter at 1.38%. Great. And then just a
Matthew Clark
Analyst, Piper Sandler
Purchase Accounting Accretion impacted dollars this quarter?
Nicole DeMasi
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, good morning, Matthew. I'll touch on that one. So as I mentioned previously, we did have some puts and takes to margin this quarter. We had some impact of accelerated loan accretion that impacted the quarter, but that was largely offset by some non-accrual interest reversals. So the NIM that you're seeing is a core NIM.
Matthew Clark
Analyst, Piper Sandler
Right. But in terms of dollars, so we can model the yield in the accretion. So interest reversals, how much was that in dollars and how much in accretion in dollars, even though the offset?
Aldis Hodge
Chief Banking Officer
We haven't historically provided that. And the reason is it's never been really material to our margin or loan yields. So we'd like to keep it that way until unless we do an acquisition that it's so material that it makes a difference. Well, certainly they'll disclose at that time, but historically it has not been, and they'll keep it that way.
Conference Operator
Conference Call Operator
Okay. Fair enough. Thanks.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Thank you.
Conference Operator
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Thank you. And I'm showing we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Mr. Laney for his closing remarks.
Tim Laney
Chairman, President and CEO
Well, again, thank you for your continued interest in National Bank Holdings, and I wish you all a good day.
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Thank you, sir. And this concludes today's conference call. If you would like to listen to the telephone replay of this call, it will be available in approximately 24 hours. And the link will be on the company's website on the events and presentations page. Thank you very much and have a great day. You may now disconnect.