Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us and welcome to Southside Bancshares, Inc. Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Lindsey Bailes, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Lindsey, please go ahead.

Thank you, Melissa. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares' third quarter 2026 earnings call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on Southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other presentations and disclosures, I'll remind you forward-looking statements are subject to risk and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release and our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO Keith Donahoe, CFO Julie Shamburger, and Chief Treasury Officer Sunny Davis. Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter, then Julie will give an overview of our financial results, and Sunny will end with comments on securities and funding. We will have a Q&A session following Sunny's remarks. I will now turn the call over to Keith.

Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. Third quarter results are highlighted by 93 cents earnings per share, a 127 return on average asset, a 1631 return on average tangible common equity, and a 302 tangible equivalent net interest margin. Our tax equivalent net interest margin benefited from improved loan and security yields and flat funding costs during the quarter. We expect the September Fed rate increase to be accretive to fourth quarter loan yields as approximately 55% of our loan book will reprice over the next 90 days. Third quarter new loan production was strong but largely offset by payoffs resulting in a relatively flat loan balance during the quarter. Recognizing that commercial real estate originations may slow with recent rate increases, and our expectation of continued payoffs, we are moderating our loan growth guidance to low to mid single digits for 2026. Third quarter new loan production totaled approximately $400 million of which $276 million funded during the quarter. Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, third quarter payoffs totaled $281 million. This was down slightly from second quarter payoffs totaling $297 million. Third quarter payoffs were heavily weighted towards CRE and include four multifamily loans accounting for just over half of our payoffs. On a positive note, these payoffs resulted in a $15 million decrease in classified assets for the quarter. Our loan pipeline totals $1.2 billion today, down from the second quarter levels of $1.4 billion. We've issued term sheets on approximately $222 million of this pipeline with $99 million in the closing process. Commercial construction loans and commercial lines of credit represent approximately 56% of the pipeline, while full funding term loans represent approximately 44%, a change from second quarter pipeline when term loans made up approximately 52% of the total pipeline. C&I loans, including owner-occupied real estate loans, increased approximately 5% during the quarter and now represent 18% of our total loan portfolio, up from 16% at year-end 2025. In addition, C&I opportunities represent approximately 24% of today's total pipeline. Other notable third quarter items include a newly hired director of treasury management, and the start of the second branch construction project. The new start is located south of Fort Worth in Burleson, Texas, and expands our commitment to the greater Fort Worth market. Additionally, the Celina Prosper construction project continues to move forward with completion expected in the second quarter of 2027. When considering our net income, earnings per share and other financial results, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow at a faster pace than the overall U.S. growth rate. With that, I look forward to answering questions, and I'll turn the call over to Julie.

Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our third quarter earnings call. For the third quarter, we are pleased to report net income of $28 million, a linked quarter increase of $1.1 million, or 4.2%. Diluted earnings per share were $0.93 for the third quarter, up $0.03 per share linked quarter, a 3.3% increase. Loans increased slightly compared to the second quarter to $4.96 billion as of September 30th, and the average rate of loans funded during the third quarter was approximately 6.1%, consistent with the second quarter and down from 6.3% in the first quarter. As of September 30th, our loans with oil and gas exposure were $54.6 million, or 1.1% of total loans, a decrease of $21.5 million compared to $76.1 million on June 30th, driven by payoffs associated with one relationship. Non-performing assets increased by $6 million or 61.6% linked quarter, largely driven by a $5.2 million CRE loan that subsequently paid off in full on October 1st, 2026. Nonperforming assets remain low on a linked quarter basis at 0.18% of total assets at quarter end. Our allowance for credit losses increased to $50.4 million from $49.3 million on June 30th. Linked quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans increased two basis points to 0.94% at September 30th. The securities portfolio increased $49.3 million, or 1.8%, to $2.83 billion on September 30 when compared to $2.78 billion on June 30. The increase was mainly driven by purchases of mortgage-backed securities and, to a lesser extent, corporate bonds during the third quarter. As of September 30th, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $93.3 million, an increase of $83.5 million compared to $9.8 million last quarter, which was driven by the increase in longer-term rates. On September 30th, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $7.6 million compared to $3.1 million linked quarter. This unrealized gain partially offset the unrealized losses in the AFS portfolio. Our AOCI on September 30, 2026 had a net loss of $149.8 million compared to a net loss of $92.1 million on June 30, 2026. The net loss was comprised of net losses on our securities and swap derivatives, of $133.9 million and $15.9 million related to our retirement plans. As of September 30th, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.8 years compared to 7.2 years at June 30th, and the duration of the AFS portfolio was 5.9 years compared to 4.3 years on June 30th. At quarter end are mixed loans and securities with 64% and 36% respectively consistent with the second quarter. Deposits decreased by $155.6 million or 2.5% on a linked quarter basis. This was primarily driven by a decrease in public fund deposits of $200.2 million and an overall decrease in commercial and retail deposits of $4.8 million. partially offset by an increase in broker deposits of $49.4 million. The net decrease in commercial and retail deposits resulted from the seasonal $99.1 million commercial escrow account that funded during the second quarter and rolled off in July. We remain well capitalized with strong capital ratios. Liquidity resources remain solid with $1.9 billion in liquidity lines available as of September 30th. We did not repurchase any common stock during the third quarter. However, since quarter end, we purchased 36,474 shares at an average price of $30 per share. Our tax-approvalent net interest margin was 302, an increase of 12 basis points on a linked quarter basis from 290 for the second quarter. Our tax-approvalent net interest spread for the same period was 236, an increase of 10 basis points from 226. The increase in the net interest margin and the net interest spread is primarily due to the higher yield on securities and loans and flat funding costs in the third quarter. Sandi will provide details on the higher yield in the securities portfolio during her remarks. For the three months ending September 30th, we had an increase in net interest income of $3 million or 5.2% compared to the linked quarter. Non-interest income decreased 271,000 or 1.9% for the linked quarter due to decreases in BOLI income and swap fees and equity fair value adjustments included in other non-interest income. Our trust and brokerage services continue to perform well this quarter. Trust fees increased $259,000 or 10.8% linked quarter and increased one and a half million or 27% for the nine months ending September 30th, 2026 when compared to the same period last year. Wealth management and trust assets under management increased to $1.8 billion on September 30th compared to $1.5 billion on September 30th, 2025. Additionally, brokerage services income increased $137,000 or 9.8% linked quarter and $795,000 or 22.6% year-to-date compared to the same period in 2025. Non-interest expense was $39 million for the third quarter, an increase of $346,000 or 0.9% compared to the linked quarter. The increase was largely driven by an increase in salaries and health expense. Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio decreased to 51-55 as of September 30th from $52.96 last quarter due to the increase in net interest income partially offset by the increase in non-interest expense. Our budget indicates average non-interest expense of approximately $40.5 million for the fourth quarter. We recorded income tax expense of $6.3 million compared to $5.7 million in the prior quarter, an increase of $542,000, or 9.4%. Our effective tax rate was 18.3% for the third quarter, compared to 17.6% last quarter. And our current estimate for the 2026 annual effective tax rate is 18%. At this time, I will turn the call over to Sunny. Thank you.

Thank you, Julie. There were several factors that contributed to the linked quarter increase in securities income, such as the average book balance increased approximately 11 million, amortization expense decreased 638,000. Interest income on the fair value swap increased 163,000. Cash flows reinvested during Q3 brought approximately 35 basis points higher yields than those purchased in Q2. Also, various bank sub-debt bonds repriced from fixed to floating, and we received a one-time prepayment penalty on a CMBS of 65,000. The MDS purchases of $172.2 million in the third quarter have coupons ranging from 5% to 6%, a duration of 6.9 years and yield 5.75%. These were purchased at slot premiums. Corporate bond purchases of bank sub-debt were $19.5 million and were new issues of investment-grade credits yielding an average rate of 6.63%. We expect to reinvest future cash flows from the securities portfolio into AFS, MBS, and potentially to a lesser extent into bank sub-debt while maintaining the balance of securities at approximately $2.8 billion. The principal cash flows we received during the quarter were $55.6 million, a decrease of $53.9 million linked quarter. The spot rate on our CDs was 3.62% at quarter end, a decrease of five basis points linked quarter. The average rate was 362 during the third quarter, a seven basis point decrease from Q2. Cities totaling 517 million with an average rate of 363 will reprise in Q4. We expect to retain the majority of these deposits but believe there will be a near-term need to increase the rates offered due to competition. Additionally, $1 billion in CDs with an average rate of $3.64 will be priced in the next 12 months. We adjusted CD rates and high-yield savings rates after the Fed Fund's increase in September. maintaining an approximate average beta of 35 on those accounts. Our public fund deposits decreased $200.2 million in the third quarter. Approximately $141 million was due to maturing CDs requiring renewal rates we were unwilling to pay. The remaining decrease was due primarily to construction draws from bond funds. We have certain non-maturity deposit accounts with exception pricing. There were no interest rate adjustments to these accounts in Q3 other than on an individual basis. We have seen a higher cost on recently acquired deposit accounts versus existing accounts. In the third quarter, new deposit accounts including CDs but excluding brokered and public funds at an average rate of 2.64% versus existing accounts averaging 1.57%. Specifical deposits were 338.5 million at quarter end, a decrease of 21.6 million linked quarter. Many of these accounts are included in the exception pricing. Approximately 83% are commercial and 17% are consumer. Linked quarter, our wholesale funding increased 334.3 million to 1.7 billion. This includes an increase in broker deposits of 49.4 million. The increase was primarily due to a decrease in public fund deposits and an increase in the book value of securities. Our cash flow hedge notional remains at 615 million with no maturities or additions in Q3. The next maturity is a 25 million notional maturing in November currently at a rate of 475. After this maturity and some amortization related to past unwinds is fully expensed in October, the rate on our current cash flow hedges will drop approximately 25 basis points, assuming current spreads. However, if we were to replace the Q1 2027 maturities at current rates, that $160 million would reprice up approximately 150 basis points. We have a notional of $291.1 million in fair value swaps on municipal and MBS securities. This is a reduction of $67 million linked quarter due to an MBS maturity on September 1st. Approximately 37% of our loans have fixed rates and 63% have a floating rate, with approximately 82% of our floating rate loans having floors. We have approximately 318 million in fixed rate loans that mature or repriced in the next 12 months. 131.1 million of those are in Q4. Of the loans maturing or repricing in the next 12 months, 137.5 million have an average rate of 3.7. We are currently modeling fed funds to be flat for the remainder of 2026 as forecast by Moody's. should rates increase in the short term, we could expect a positive impact on net interest income since we are asset sensitive. We are modeling a beta of 39 on non-maturity deposits. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our prepared comments, and we will now open the line for your questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Brett Robitin with Stone X Group. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks for the questions. Wanted to first start off on the margin and the securities yield. It sounded like there was a lot of noise in the link quarter change in the yield. I was trying to write down all the numbers you guys were mentioning about the various... does the securities portfolio yield hold at these levels or could there be some atrophy and then I guess I'm just curious you're talking about being asset sensitive but it does seem like you've done a great job managing the funding costs here particularly in 3Q but it sounds like maybe the fourth quarter might be somewhat higher in terms of the funding costs so it was just I was just hoping to encapsulate all of the variables there that I know the margins are hard to predict, but I was just trying to understand a little bit better what might happen from here.

Okay, so on the securities portfolio, of course, we had the one-time CMBS prepayment of $65,000, and some of that fair value swap income, the $163,000, is related to in effectiveness, and that was an expense to us in the first half of the year. It flipped, so it's now, it was now income in the third quarter, so the fourth quarter, I don't see the same amount of change. As far as, I mean, the yield on the purchases, I mean, I see that holding because our prepays have slowed down. You know, it was $638,000 decrease in our amortization expense linked quarters. So I see that being consistent in the fourth quarter. I mean, not down another 638, but being flat in Q4 to Q3. because we haven't seen the huge prepayments that we saw in the first quarter and into April of this year.

On the loan side, we've spent a lot of time over the last two years making sure that the new real estate transactions we're booking for the most part are floating rate transactions. Customers are always interested in you know interest rate protection so we are putting them into back-to-back swaps and we've done a really good job of that in the last couple of years and so 55% of our book is floating and well actually floating is a little bit higher but 55% of our book will be repricing and most of that repricing has now happened since the Fed moved in September and we only had two weeks of that benefit in the third quarter so I'm I'm pretty bullish on the fact that as if rates continue to move up, we're going to see the benefit. There'll be some somewhat of a lag, but most of that loan portfolio is priced at a floating transaction. It's 30 days so far, plus a spread.

So I mean, on the funding side, we will see some increase in our CDs that are coming up for repricing because they're going to be pricing probably into the 390 range from an average they're averaging right now in the low 360s. And on wholesale at quarter end, our non-swapped wholesale was 403. I see that increasing. I'm going to try to keep it around 410, but it could creep up to 415. but I think these are smaller dollar amounts and the betas on the CDs for sure are smaller than the betas on the loan side. The loan amounts are higher and the betas are 100%.

Okay. That's good color. And then I saw that you had the pass-through payoff and class slides down to 245 from 260. was just hoping to get any additional color. I know there's several multifamily projects in Austin that you guys have been working on. Just was hoping for maybe any update on those and how you guys kind of see asset quality from here. You obviously had no charge off this quarter, so credit continues to be fairly benign, but was just hoping for some additional color on those properties.

I guess I kind of want to reiterate, we are very conservative with our risk rating. And that comes from a lot of experience in the real estate market in particular, where we know the sooner you identify struggles, the easier it is to manage. And so we're pretty good and focused on making sure that we're identifying issues early as a result. You saw somewhat of a spike in our classified assets earlier in the year. We did not and still do not see any true losses coming out of those larger real estate transactions. And as indicated by the fact that we haven't seen the charge-offs and we continue to see a reduction in our classified assets, many of these assets are the four that paid off, a full multifamily assets that paid off in the third quarter. Two of them were refinanced by life companies. One was, I think, refinanced by debt fund, and one was an open market sale. So it's a sign of a healthy real estate portfolio in spite of the fact that we're pretty critical on our risk rating. So I anticipate more of the same. There's nothing that is sticking out for sure in the near term that it causes me any concern. There's always surprises, but we hope that we are engaged with our lending staff early and often to identify those, but right now there's nothing on the horizon that indicates any major issues.

Okay, that's really helpful. Thanks so much.

Your next question comes from the line of Woody Lay with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. Wanted to start out on the margin again. And if I think back to last quarter, we had talked about, you know, the potential for additional NIM pressure unless we get a rate hike. Well, we got the rate hike in it, but it came kind of at the end of the quarter. So it feels like the margin outperformed expectations. And I was just curious on from y'all's perspective, what were the biggest surprises in your view that allowed for this, you know, this positive snapback?

I think one of them is we were pleasantly surprised that we won a couple of loan transactions that have slightly higher spreads, which helped. But in addition to that, I think Sandi and her team has done a great job on managing the funding costs. So, Sandi, you want to add anything?

No, I mean, we've just been very diligent about it, and we've moved our sources. As you can see, we went back into the brokered market some. We've continued to do that in Q4 just because those rates have increased. come down, and we've seen they're advantageous over borrowing from FHLB. We've maxed out our collateral at the discount window and continue to borrow there because that is the cheapest rate that we can get wholesale-wise, and unfortunately, we had to let some public funds go, and so that was due to rate, so we're just watching and just being at being opportunistic with funding and being cautious with our exception pricing as well. I mean, we get requests multiple times a day for exception pricing on deposit accounts, and we set some parameters around that, and I think we did well with that in Q3.

Does that help, Woody? Got it.

Yeah, no, that's really helpful. And I guess, you know, because you all have been very active on the liability optimization to find the best rate, sometimes it can be a little bit tough from my seat to get a sense of the core deposit trends given some of the movement. And I was just curious if you all had a spot rate, cost of deposits at the end of the month, and just general expectations for deposit costs from here post-rate hike

I'm looking at Sonny. I don't know if we have that specific number.

I mean, on cost of deposits, Woody, they were $189 in the third quarter versus $194 in the June 30 quarter.

Yeah, I didn't know if y'all had a bot cost, you know, post rate hike and, you know, the direction that's trending.

I have it for CDs. It was $362,000 for CDs. And then our existing deposit base was $157,000, including CDs, but not including brokerage and public funds at quarter end. And then the newly put on deposits was the higher, what was it, $262,000-ish during the quarter?

so yeah as we're you know deposit competition is real and we're going to see upward pressure on our on our pricing um we're doing we do have some initiatives in place that they're not going to you know move the needle tomorrow but over time they will and whereby we are actively that one reason I highlighted the growth in our C&I business is because we truly believe that CNI business drags in more deposits, stickier deposits, and a lot of times cheaper priced deposits because you get larger non-interest bearing accounts. And so we are very focused on that as an organization. And as we grow into the metro markets, our growth pattern is going to lead with CNI. We've got real estate covered and we'll continue to grow that brick, but the CNI is really about its loan growth, but it's also a deposit growth year.

Yeah, I appreciate the call. I guess just last for me, you know, it's here, it was good to hear you all positively surprised on some of the loan yields you are getting on a couple of, you know, on a couple of credits. And just curious how that pricing and spread has held up so far in October.

Don't get me wrong, it's still competitive out there. Where you may see some lift, and I don't have these numbers, but we've booked quite a few construction loans over the last 18 months that are going to start funding up. The ones that were booked a year ago to 18 months ago had significantly higher spreads, and so we will benefit from that over the next you know six months as they start to fund up so I'll maybe before the next call I'll have some color on what we anticipate from a construction draw funding because those spreads are higher but it is still hand-to-hand combat both on spreads on loan spreads as well as deposit pricing.

Yeah all right well great thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to go back to some of the comments you made, Keith, on loan production and pipelines. I think you said the pipeline was down about $200 million from last quarter. Obviously, you've had some payoffs and rates probably going to move higher at least one more time. We'll see. But how should we think about the payoffs? And, you know, I know obviously just given what you've had over the past couple quarters, the loan growth for the full year is, you know, a little bit subdued versus your prior expectations. But if we kind of contemplate, you know, kind of next year with likely some continued theory payoffs and ongoing growth in other parts of the business, I mean, is kind of the low to mid single digits the way we should at least initially think about growth for next year? Thanks.

Yeah, you know, I wouldn't expect a drastic change in 2027. We are putting in place. So we've got a couple of initiatives to help even out the loan growth, if you will. Historically, we've not spent a lot of time on the retail side of the business. We have an effort in place right now to grow our consumer lending business. Some of that's going to come through a home equity line of credit product that we actually is out and available to customers today. Just started in the last 30 days. So we're hopeful that helps move some needles. We are also focused on just general consumer lending. And if you go back and look at our numbers over the last 10 years, that portfolio has just declined every year. We're going to try to turn that around. I'm not telling you we're going to book $100 million worth of that next year, but it is something we're focused on. In addition, we are actively engaged with potential team lift outs in different markets. As everybody knows, there's been a lot of disruption in the metro markets in particular, although we've also seen it here in the East Texas market. And we are Many of those folks are not in a position to make that move yet. But I do think, you know, early 27 and throughout 27, those opportunities are going to come our way. And we are actively looking. Those won't have an immediate impact on loan growth, but they will over the next 24 months to 36 months.

That's helpful color, Keith. I appreciate all the commentary. Maybe just as a follow-up, it was good to see you guys repurchase some stock after kind of quarter end. Capital levels obviously still very strong. I know the TC impacted by the AOCI impacts that you and others are facing. How should we think about buybacks from here? I know you previously talked about M&A. Just any updated thoughts there? Thanks.

Yeah, I guess one way to say it is, unfortunately, when you see us buying stock, it's because our stock is trading below where we think it should be. So we will continue to be opportunistic with those purchases. And an acquisition is still something that's likely in our future. I continue to meet folks and have discussions, but there's obviously nothing active today. We do think in 2027 there may be some opportunities that come our way.

All right. Thanks for taking my questions.

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Olney with Stevens. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. What I ask about your loan deposit ratio is now, I think, a little over 80%, the highest we've seen in a while. Curious kind of your expectations here. Can this continue to move higher? Just any thoughts there?

Thanks. I can't tell you it's not going to go a little bit higher, but it all depends on our ability to go gather deposits. and broker deposits might have a positive effect on that ratio as we move back into that market. Again, we're pretty opportunistic and Sonny's team really literally daily manages that funding side. And so that was probably the biggest hit. It wasn't, as you could tell, it wasn't, we weren't outstripping loan growth from our deposits. We just moved out of broker deposits earlier this year that spiked that ratio.

Got it. And Keith, on the brokerage side, is there any strategic target or percent of deposits that you're targeting for brokerage versus non-brokerage?

We have internal limits, but no, there's not a target. It's just as long as we need wholesale, we're just looking for the best rate.

Okay.

Appreciate that. And then, Keith, you mentioned the strong C&I growth, and it sounds like some good pipelines there. Any more color? I think you made some nice hires over the last few years. I would assume some of this pipeline growth is from those new hires. Any more color on the C&I performance?

Yeah, some of that is coming from the Houston team that was – we've now – have been together a couple of years. So they really are starting to get their footing. A lot of that growth also came right out of our East Texas markets. As I've pointed out a number of times, we've long done C&I throughout East and Southeast Texas, and we do it really well. And we've had some hires here in the East Texas market that has really helped drive some of that. and we're anticipating a handful of other hires in the East Texas and Southeast Texas markets that can help do that as well.

Okay. Thanks for the color. I'll step back.

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Scouten with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

I appreciate the time here. Thank you. Maybe going back to the NIM outperformance here in the quarter, I mean, it's great to see cost of deposits down five bips seem to be the primary driver. Is the kind of anticipated pressure on funding costs, is that primarily dependent on loan and overall balance sheet growth? Is it just that you were able to shrink deposits this quarter because of the lack of loan growth that kept that pressure from manifesting? Is that kind of the right way to think about it?

Do you want to answer?

I don't know that that is the answer.

Yeah, we had a seasonal deposit relationship that spiked in the second quarter, paid off in the third quarter, not paid off. It moved out in the third quarter. So some of that contributed to our deposit reduction. But I think, you know, one thing that Because of the effort we've done with moving to a more floating rate book, so far, our loans have repriced at a higher rate than what our deposit cost increase has been. We anticipate that to continue. I know I would love to say that we can keep it at a 15 basis point delta, but As long as we're able to reprice the loans faster, which this is different, something that everybody ought to be aware of. The last time rates rose, we were not in a position to reprice our loan book as fast as we're able to reprice our loan book today. And so, in addition, Sandi pointed out, we've got about $131 million in loans that come up for maturity or repricing in the fourth quarter. and those rates right now in that book is about 474, I think you said, 475. And so we anticipate moving those to more market rates that will help also improve the loan yields.

Got it. and have you guys quantified at all kind of the impact of each potential 25 basis point hike on the NIM if we get these two more hikes that the forward curve suggests? Is that a couple basis point per hike or do you have a number that is a proxy there?

We have not run that number specifically. We're making a note. We'll see when we get that out to you.

Okay, great. And then just thinking about the securities book, it sounds like, You guys are increasing the duration of the securities book a bit. Can you talk to me about the strategy there or maybe what that signals where you think rates could be going over the longer term, maybe?

That had more to do with the rising rate environment stretching out the duration than intentional movement by us. In a perfect world, I'd love to see a three to four year duration on our entire securities book, but with almost half of it in HDM, we're not able to do that. But hopefully that answers your question.

Yeah, that's good. And then just lastly, with the move to more C&I loans on your books and in the pipeline as well, should we expect to see the loan loss reserve as a percentage of loans increase kind of in tandem with that increase in C&I loans? Do you hold more reserves against those loans than the CRE loans?

I haven't dug in specifically on that. I don't anticipate it having a material effect. And one reason is because as tight as we are on real estate credit, we're probably a little more tighter on C&I credit. So I'll look at that number and maybe provide some guidance on that on future meetings. But right now, it's not something that I anticipate to be a material increase in reserves.

About a 111 on the commercial, the pure commercial, not any real estate.

I don't know if you heard that.

Probably not.

But Julie said that we have a 111 coverage on just pure commercial. It does not include commercial owner-occupied. Yeah, no, it doesn't online.

and those are higher.

So maybe a little bit higher then, but not materially because you guys remain very tight on that credit box. So that's great to hear. Okay, fantastic. Thanks for all the color today. I appreciate it. Thanks, David.

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside Bancshares along with the opportunity to answer your questions. We're optimistic about 2026 and moving forward into 2027 and look forward to joining y'all on the earnings call in January. Thank you.

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.