Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the third quarter 2026 EW Scripps Company Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Carolyn Micheli, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Carolyn Micheli Thanks, Edie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for a discussion of the E.W. Scripps Company's financial results and business strategies. You can visit scripps.com for more information and a replay of this call. A reminder that our conference call and webcast include forward-looking statements based on management's current outlook. and actual results may differ materially. Factors that may cause them to differ are outlined in our SEC filings. We do not intend to update any forward looking statements we make today. Included on this call will be a discussion of certain non-GAAP financial measures that are provided as supplements to assist management and the public in their analysis and valuation of the company. These metrics are not formulated in accordance with GAAP and are not meant to replace GAAP financial measures and may differ from other companies' uses or formulations. Reconciliations of these measures are included in our earnings release. We'll hear this morning first from Scripps Chief Financial Officer Jason Combs and then President and CEO Adam Simpson. Here's Jason.

Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us. We are now three days past the midterm election and I'm pleased to report that we ended the cycle above even our guidance from last week and 44% above our record 2022 midterm political revenue level at $284 million. Cash from this year's political ad revenue will go towards paying down debt. In addition, we continue to make progress on our EBITDA improvement plan. As you know, our company transformation plan includes both expense reductions and revenue growth initiatives. We expect to generate between $125 and $150 million in benefits to the bottom line. We're on track, as discussed last quarter, to deliver $100 million of that in run rate savings by year end. We've completed workforce reductions this year, impacting about 20% of our employees. and just a reminder that while the majority of this impact will show up next year, you'll begin seeing the transformation run rate savings in the fourth quarter as reflected in the guidance I'll give you this morning. Now let's talk about the quarterly results. I will present our third quarter local media division results on a same station or adjusted combined basis, removing the third quarter 2025 results of the two TV stations we've now sold and reflecting the addition of our Lexington ABC affiliate. During the third quarter, Our local media division revenue was $373 million, up 19% from the third quarter of 2025. Core advertising revenue decreased 13%, reflecting displacement from our large amount of political advertising revenue. Local media political advertising revenue was $81 million, a record midterm third quarter for us. Local media distribution revenue was flat from the prior year period at $178 million. Expenses for the division were down 3% year-over-year, driven by lower network affiliation fees and lower employee costs. Local media segment profit was $118 million, compared to $50 million in the year-ago quarter. For the fourth quarter, on an adjusted combined or same-station basis, we expect local media division revenue to be up in the low-to-mid 40% range. We expect core advertising to be down high single digits, driven primarily by crowd-out from record midterm election revenue. And again, we can now say our full year local media political advertising revenue came in Tuesday at $284 million. That is 44% above the 2022 midterm when we took in $198 million. Adam will give more color on this in a moment. We expect fourth quarter local media distribution revenue to be up about 4% driven by our recent contract renewals. We expect fourth quarter local media expenses to be about flat to the 2025 quarter. Excluding new costs tied to Pistons and Predator contracts, Q4 expenses would be down mid to high single digits. Now let's review the Scripps Networks Division third quarter results and fourth quarter guidance. Once again, I'll be presenting the results on an adjusted combined basis. In this case, adjusting for the impact of the Core TV sale in February. In the third quarter, Scripps Networks revenue was $173 million, down 11% from the prior year quarter. Our results include the benefit of Nielsen's September 1st ratings methodology changes, as well as continued growth in Networks Connected TV revenue, up 37% for the quarter. But we also experienced pressure from low consumer confidence in the economy, especially in the direct response market. The division's third quarter expenses were up 0.9% year-over-year at $140 million. But if you factor out the first-year impact of our new WNBA contract, Networks' expenses would be down year-over-year. For the fourth quarter, we expect to report divisions expenses that are down and will continue to trend down next year as transformation cost savings initiatives take effect. Scripps Network's Q3 segment profit was $33 million. For the fourth quarter, we expect Scripps Network's division revenue to be down in the high single-digit percent range, mainly because of the soft direct response advertising market. For the full year, we expect Networks Connected TV revenue to be at least $155 million, 36% above 2025. We expect Scripps Network's Q4 expenses to be down in the low single digits. For the segment labeled Other, in the third quarter, we reported a loss of $6.4 million. Shared services and corporate expenses were $25.9 million. For the fourth quarter, we expect that to be about $27 million. For the third quarter, the company is reporting income attributable to Scripps shareholders of $21 million or 21 cents per share. The current year quarter included $18.8 million in restructuring costs, which decreased the income attributable to shareholders by 14 cents per share. In the prior year quarter, loss attributable to shareholders of Scripps was $49 million, or 55 cents per share. In addition, the preferred stock dividend has a negative impact on earnings per share, even when we don't pay it. This quarter it reduced EPS by 17 cents. We ended the third quarter with $83.4 million in cash and nothing drawn on a revolving credit facility. Net debt was $2.2 billion, as defined in our credit agreement. We expect to pay down at least $150 million in debt during the fourth quarter. Net leverage at the end of the quarter was 5.2 times, according to the terms of our credit agreement, which includes certain pro forma adjustments related to our transformation efforts. And now, here's Adam.

Thanks, Jason, and good morning, everybody. We're very pleased to be reporting another election year where Scripps has set a record for midterm advertising revenue, finishing 44% above our last midterm cycle. And as Jason said, these high margin dollars will go directly to reducing our quantum of debt. Ad impact tells us broadcasters are receiving more than half of all TV political ad spending. And this cycle, that half is even more significant because national political spending levels were a record Not just for midterms, but measured against presidential years as well. We're not surprised. Broadcast television is a trustworthy, reliable platform for candidates and campaigns to reach prospective voters. That's been true for decades and it remains true today. And increasingly, it is true on our local and national streaming platforms as well. We expect that relationship with political advertisers to endure and deepen as we grow our streaming reach. Our performance came down to two factors. First, of course, is our footprint, which once again lined up exceptionally well with some of the most hotly contested races. You won't be surprised to hear that we saw strong spending in Ohio and Michigan, both of which were red states in 2024, but came back squarely into the toss-up column for this cycle, driving tremendous national party dollars there. We also saw strong results across Arizona, Florida, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Virginia. While our footprint ensured the revenue opportunity was in our markets, our sales strategy and execution are what really allowed us to take full advantage of this year's significant demand and outpace our past record performance. And one differentiator that is instructive for how you should model this company going forward is the way our political revenue yield was boosted by the Scripps Sports Strategy. In many of our most competitive political markets, our sports inventory added meaningful value. For example, in Detroit, we leveraged the opening games of the Pistons season to create inventory that we monetized at premium political rates. This is the sports strategy working exactly as designed. New, high-value local inventory that serves multiple categories of demand simultaneously. Sports advertisers, political campaigns, and local retail. And as we look ahead to 2028, we intend to build even more of that inventory in more of our markets. Last week was difficult to cross Scripps. We notified 431 employees that their roles were being eliminated, bringing the total employees impacted in 2026 to approximately 850, nearly 20% of our employee count from the beginning of the year. I want to speak directly about this, because 2026 has seen one of the most significant structural resets in this company's history. And it hasn't been easy. The people of Scripps who are navigating this transformation while simultaneously managing a frenetic record political cycle, new distribution agreements, new sports rights launches, and measurement disruption at our networks, they deserve enormous credit. But here's what I want investors to truly understand. This transformation is not just a cost reduction story. It's the story about what we are building in place of the old model to drive growth with a setup for greater economic durability. Our local stations are changing along with the American consumer. To do this, we had to upend more than 50 years of legacy newsroom workflow. Now we're putting more journalists in the field to report more stories throughout the day for distribution across the broadcast, streaming, digital, and social platforms where consumers are spending the most time. We're responsibly taking advantage of new technology including AI, automation, and centralization to care for some of the traditionally more labor-intensive elements of television news production and put more journalists out in the community developing relationships, gathering information, and reporting the news. Local news is the most important product for this company, both in terms of our mission and in terms of our financial viability. We're making decisions in service to our intent to thrive and fulfill our commitments to our country and to our shareholders. We are transforming into a faster, more agile, and more deeply local company, one that can sustain the public interest work that has defined Scripps Since 1878. The early results on streaming platforms are encouraging. Across stations, our new workflows are producing a truly local 24-hour stream, and we're seeing hours of viewing jump an average of 23% before we've even begun to market the product. Four of our first stations to launch are averaging nearly 70% growth in hours of viewing after just eight weeks. And it's not at the expense of our linear TV performance. Traditional time period ratings have remained stable. It's very early and the growth is off of a small base, but I'm encouraged by the consumer demand for local news. I expect that growth to turn into revenue and bottom line value as we mature the initiative. And that's the point. There is opportunity ahead to serve new audiences on new platforms and it has taken a bold commitment to change the way we do our work. Our local media streaming strategy draws directly from what has worked at Scripps Networks. We recognized early the value of streaming rights for our network's content. Shortly after forming the Networks Division, we gathered the rights to run programming across streaming services, formed agreements with CTV distributors, and built what is now our ubiquitous reach on that platform. That work has taken our network's CTV revenue from zero to a projected $155 million for the full year 2026. That will be 36% above 2025. The scale and revenue potential of what we're building here is real and it's accelerating because our focus is on the consumer. Let me now address our Scripps Network's financial performance brought on by the challenges we saw earlier this year created by an inaccurate reflection of our viewership. Neilson's sudden change to methodology last winter altered our measured audience supply overnight. We worked with Neilson to address it, and I'm pleased to tell you that work is now bearing out in the numbers. As we wound down the third quarter, we began seeing the results, and the data demonstrates what we always knew. Our audiences didn't go anywhere. The measurement framework introduced September 1st is now a much better reflection of our true ratings. The biggest driver for us in Nielsen's update is its larger antenna household universe. Antenna homes make up a sizable portion of our core audience, and getting that count right gave our networks a meaningful and deserved ratings lift. At ION, viewership among the key demographic of adults 25 to 54 grew 7% in September over the two months before the change, and all Scripps networks viewing in that demo grew an average of 23%. That performance has been sustained into October, is now built into our forward-looking statements, and is a tailwind as we head into 2027. During the third quarter, the Scripps Networks closed out a successful upfront buoyed by our Scripps Sports Strategy that's made ION the home of women's sports. The team sold out more than 75% of our sports inventory, propelling Scripps to buck the industry trends and beat Peer Performance. Our network's team went into this year's upfront season with one of the most compelling sales stories in the industry, and they delivered. The linchpin of that story is women's sports on ION and our network's unparalleled reach on every television platform. ION's sports inventory is commanding advertising rates that are more than two times its non-sports inventory, and we saw many new clients transition from scatter to the upfront concerned that our sports inventory would either sell out or command even more premium prices in Scatter. We saw particularly high demand across the WNBA and the NWSL. We successfully sold key sponsor partnerships across many of our major opportunities, but we also strategically preserved several high value assets and opportunities for the Scatter marketplace. That represents meaningful upside in our pipeline as we move into 2027. One last note before I close out networks. Although we have faced secular challenges throughout 2026, what I will tell you is that Scripps is focused on the levers within our control, particularly as we shift to higher yield sports and CTV inventory, which provides us meaningful insulation from external factors. Let me close my remarks with the frame I want investors to carry into 2027. Scripps' transformation is necessary, as are the hard decisions we made in 2026. Investors will see this work begin to flow through operating results in the fourth quarter and into next year. The EBITDA improvement plan was designed to enhance margins across the enterprise, improve the balance sheet, and support durability. But it's very important for you to understand that cost cutting was never the destination. While we expect to continue the repositioning of the company, As we move into 2027, the teams at Scripps now turn more of our attention to growth. We're advancing dozens of initiatives to grow revenue with bottom line benefit, yielding more dollars from businesses we run today, as we do with Scripps Sports, and pursuing adjacent opportunities that double down on our focus of creating connection in our local markets. And doing all of this is in service to building a solid foundation from which we can execute future M&A and transformation at this company. Ultimately, we are guided in this work by our vision of creating connection within our audiences and communities. The journalists we are investing in, the reporters we are adding back to the field, the community relationships we are deepening, those build brand equity that make every other revenue line possible. This will benefit us in 2027 and be the setup for what I expect will be an outstanding 2028. We're ready for what comes next, and I look forward to showing you quarter by quarter exactly what that looks like in our results. DeeDee, we are now ready for questions.

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Dan Kerners of StoneX. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks. Good morning. Adam, Jason, really appreciate all the incremental color. Just one housekeeping, Jason, because I think I just missed it. Did you say distribution up 4% in Q4?

That is correct. Yes.

Okay. Got it. Thanks. Adam, I just want to kind of go off of the commentary that you provided. You know, I know we always ask you sort of for more color on the growth initiatives, and I know you're not going to give us the exact playbook. Clearly appreciate what you've done with The push into sports, all the benefits that you're seeing there and the tailwinds that you're seeing from that. You talked about some adjacent opportunities. Is there any other kind of directional color areas that you could give us on sort of things that you think are either low hanging fruit or attackable from a growth perspective as we head into 27

Well, I think there's actually meaningful growth to be found inside the core business, both through some optimization of yield management and the way we approach sales execution in networks and local. From an adjacency perspective, I think there's a lot of opportunity for us to extend the value of the IP that we both own and that we partner with, including in the sports ecosystem, to create additional Thank you all for joining us.

Got it. That's really helpful color. And then maybe just one for Jason. You know, look, obviously you guys executed super well. Everyone's flush with political money, came in big. We all kind of think that this is the new normal now. So, you know, so unfortunate for those of us trying to watch football on Sunday, but that's the way of the world. Great for all you guys. So, you know, as you think about the balance sheet going into next year, Jason, you know, you've done a great job kind of managing the maturities here. We have to think about, you know, the press and all the rest of that stuff. You're in a pretty decent spot now given the end of the year and some of these initiatives that you've got going on to just help us think through maybe your high level thoughts going into next year from a balance sheet perspective.

Yeah, so first I would say is given the guidance we gave on political and the expectations for the fourth quarter, I think from a leverage perspective, I think you'll see leverage move down, you know, sequentially from Q3 to Q4. And, you know, we'll have a pretty material amount of cash that we'll be able to direct towards debt pay down at the end of the year. You kind of referenced there sort of maturity risk. And, you know, from our perspective, we're most focused on the near-term maturity risk. And so I would expect us to direct The cash flow we have through the remainder of the year towards our B2 term loan, which is our nearest term maturity that comes due in 2028. And I think that will be the case as we move into the beginning of next year as well. The other question we do get asked a lot is whether we would consider buying back bonds, particularly our 2031s, that are trading a discount in the open market. As I mentioned, right now, we believe the highest and best use is to focus on those near-term maturities. We have sort of earned our way into having a bucket available that we could apply to the bonds, and I think as we move through next year, you know, we'll continue to sort of weigh our options, consider whether a bond repurchases later next year makes sense, and kind of just look sort of across the cap structure at our, I would say, our broader deleveraging priorities.

Awesome. Thank you both very much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Dan. Thank you. And our next question comes from Craig Huber of Huber Research Partners. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. Good morning, guys. I've got a few questions. I'll just go one by one and make it easy for everyone. Talk a little bit further, if you would please, in Scripps Networks about the ad revenue trends. I'm curious, for the DR industry, What is DR right now, I guess last quarter, as a percentage of ad revenue within Scripps Networks? How's that tracking? If you can get a little more granular on that, I'd appreciate that. I'll have some follow-ups. Thank you.

Yeah, so we don't disclose a specific breakdown between DR and general market, but what I can tell you is when you kind of look at the performance in Q3, The Q3 performance was largely driven off of the Nielsen change and impacts to general market, which, as Adam said in his prepared remarks, we did see some improvements upon the change on September 1st, but the beginning part of the quarter certainly that weighed pretty heavy on the revenue performance. As you kind of turn the page to Q4 and you look at the guide we gave for Q4, you know, I would say we continue to be pleased with what we're seeing from a ratings perspective and how that is flowing through to the general market. The guide that you're seeing for Q4 would be more indicative of the direct response marketplace and some of the challenges we see there tied to kind of the macro and the impacts in terms of consumer confidence and how that's impacting the consumer pocketbook.

Okay, my next question, on the local TV Station, Front. Where is news right now? What's the percentage of ad revenues for you guys right now?

We don't break that out either, but I would say it is by far the biggest bucket of core ad revenue.

Okay. And when you guys said that ratings within your local TV stations are stable, does that mean the trends are similar to what they've been in recent years?

Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think the comment was meant to Certainly allay any concerns or fears that the work we're doing to incrementally create value on new platforms like streaming, social, and digital would in some way negatively impact linear ratings, and they have not at all.

And maybe just, Craig, to give just a little finer point on my comment on news, while we don't disclose a specific number, I mean... News is by far the biggest category of core revenue. Sports is growing and is sort of the second biggest, and there is a significant gap in size between the size of the core revenue generated during news versus sports.

Okay, I appreciate that. Also want to ask you the 20% layoff of employees this year. Sounds like that's going to all be wrapped up by very soon by the end of the year for sure. It sounds like a full benefit for next year. Just talk Adam or Jason about I mean, taking out that amount of employees, I mean, that's, as you mentioned, is very difficult and stuff. But what's the risk here that it could potentially hurt the operations? Maybe touch on that. Obviously, I'm sure you were very methodical on how you did that and stuff. I mean, this is not just a run-of-the-mill 5% layoff of the recession. That's a pretty big number. But do you feel there's any risk here to upset the operations, the revenues, etc.? ?

Yeah, thanks for the question, Craig. I mean, we're executing a really comprehensive plan to rethink the way we're doing things. And so, no, this is not a 5% annual cut in order to just trim expenses. This is in service to true transformation. We have fundamentally changed the way we are operating and servicing our audiences. and we're doing so using technology, centralization and some non-generative AI. I don't see, as I described with the linear ratings, I don't see risk, top line risk associated with this move. If anything, I see top line upside because we're beginning to see the traction of what happens when you take your content Thank you for joining us today.

I appreciate that. One more question, if I could. Jason, maybe more of a housekeeping question. Putting aside the 20% headcount layoff, can you talk about what investors should expect for your other expense category next year in each of your segments? I mean, it's obviously very difficult to take out all those employees, but how much have you guys tackled taking out expenses in this other expense category, not programming the other expense line in each segment, and how should we think about that line for next year, please?

Yeah and so you know without really guiding to 2027 what I can say is the the transformation efforts that Adam has talked about are encompass the entire P&L and so certainly when you think of both the impacts in that other expense line of having a smaller employee base and that having implications down into things like you know technology licenses all of those sorts of things but also we have a very strong focus on Identifying within that other bucket where there's opportunity to drive year-over-year declines. And so when we talk about declining expense year-over-year, I think that is really across the P&L, not just in the employee cost line.

Craig, I want to also just provide a little bit of context because I want to make sure it's clear. This is a three-year transformation strategy. We started it this year. And so while the most comprehensive employee reductions are behind us, and investors will see that impact flow through Thank you.

And our next question comes from Avi Steiner of JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. And I apologize if I missed this already. But you gave distribution up 4% in the fourth quarter. I'm wondering if you can talk about core post-election, how that looks on the local side. Again, if you gave it already, I apologize. And I've got a couple more.

Yeah, hey Avi, Jason. So, in regards to maybe two things. One, in regards to your question on core, you know, we put out a guide that is heavily influenced by the amount of political crowd in a record, a record midterm for us. It's early to kind of talk about trends post-election. It can take a little bit of time for displaced advertisers to kind of work their way back in the system. But I would say overall, we're pleased with the way things are pacing, kind of coming out of the election. I think as we look at that pacing, there's a nice bump as you move from October core up to November core, 30% growth really as you get past all of that displacement. Overall, I'd say we're pleased with how core is trending, but it's also early. The other thing I wanted to mention, just because you did bring up distribution being up 4%, I think that another question we've gotten some is, we know what your distribution story is for this year, what does it look like as you look towards 2027. And so from a sub-churn perspective, we've seen some slight improvement in sub-churn recently. You see traditional MVPDs improving, you see some slowing in virtual growth, but the net is a slight improvement. Still down mid-single digits, but a modestly better mid-single digit. And when you put the combination of some churn improvement and our recent MVPD renewals, I think that has us pretty optimistic as we look forward to next year. I would expect to see low to mid-single-digit growth in gross next year and double-digit growth in net, so certainly something that would provide a lift to our P&L and a reason for optimism as we look towards 2027.

That's great, and you tackled another question I had, so thank you for that. I don't want to beat this cost-saving question to death, so to speak, but when we come to the end of this year and we come to the end of next year, if we keep everything else flat, Zeke, I'm just trying to figure out the size as I'm thinking about next year's model, at least on my end, how to think about expenses.

We haven't specifically said where we'll be at the end of next year. We said we'd have a run rate achieved of $100 million by the end of this year. As we alluded to, the transformation target, the $125 million to $150 million, is both some combination of cost and revenue. I think in February we'll give more guidance, I'd say more concrete guidance, in terms of sort of what to expect from P&L perspective. But, you know, based on that guidance or the run rate we said we'd achieve by the end of this year, I think you would expect a pretty material year-over-year decline in most expense line items.

Very, very helpful. And then just on the CTV side and your strategies, I think Fox closed on Roku today or will be closing on it today. Given your assets and how you've interacted with it in the past, how do you think about that merger and the impact of Scripps?

We have a terrific relationship with Roku and with Tubi, and I expect it to continue. We have actually a fairly long-term relationship with Roku. It's probably fair to say we're one of their Most important partners, given the hours of viewing we see on our networks. And we have a very good relationship more broadly with Fox, given the relationship we have in the local business. So I don't expect any headwinds in the relationship with Roku. If anything, I actually think Roku being a part of a traditional linear media company could potentially open up additional opportunity for us because it will provide them, I think, insight into the way or new ways to drive audience and monetize it.

That's terrific. I appreciate that. I wasn't suggesting that was a concern. I wanted your perspective, so thank you for that. My very last question, and thank you all for the time, Just back to the debt, I'd love a quick clarification if I can. Jason, did you say all of the 150 is going to the term loan? Does it have to go to the term loan? Or do you have some flexibility? I think you said you earned a basket, but I didn't hear the size of that. If you just clarified those things would be great. And again, thank you all for the time.

Yeah, and so it doesn't all have to go to the B2 term loan. I think we are directing it there because we are addressing our near term maturity risk and trying to reduce the quantum of that debt going into You know, going into 2027 by as much as we can. You know, we have a basket of around $30 million or so that we could use to buy back bonds on the open market. And as I said, that is not the plan as we exit this quarter. But I think as you think ahead to next year, that gives us some optionality as we see how cash flow comes through next year and we make determinations on 2027 cash flow and how to apply it to debt.

Terrific. Thank you all.

Thank you. And our next question comes from Stephen Cahill of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Thank you. Adam, I want to ask you about M&A. And just to preface, I certainly understand the importance of the transformation program. I know you've said that You're not counting on or relying on strategic M&A, so I don't want to kind of underweight the focus on transformation, but we've talked a lot about it on the call. So with that, here's the M&A question. You've got really good political numbers. The balance sheet's in a better place, but it is still a little bit strained. I'd say for some of your peers, it's a similar story. And if we get to the end of this FCC, which is pretty favorable to broadcast, it would seem like there could be a big missed opportunity if there isn't some strategic M&A. So I'm wondering, as you focus on the transformation program, will you be kind of redoubling efforts for industry conversations? Ethan Nelson, David Giles, Carolyn Pione Micheli, Mark Gray

Thank you all for joining us. I know I'm going to sit around and wait for anything to come my way, but I'm fairly proactive, and we'll continue to explore all options that we think are in the best interests of shareholders. You know, the regulatory environment may appear to be favorable at the FCC, but Tuesday's, from my perspective, Tuesday's blue wave injects a little bit of more uncertainty into the prospect of, like, a mega-merger, That many overlaps. I think we have to see what happens with the next Artegna deal. I don't know if it's clear yet what the courts and how the state's attorneys general will react. And so from my perspective, we're just totally focused on doing what we can in order to optimize our portfolio. We've been really active with M&A from the outset. And every deal that we've announced has either put cash in our pocket or is going to increase segment profit to benefit the company and investors. And some of those deals have done both. That's the divestitures of the stations in Fort Myers and Indianapolis, both at really premium sellers multiples, the gray swap and our sale of Court TV. And I don't think we're finished with that work.

And I can answer real quick on the distribution question. Steve, you're correct. We do have the impact of the blackout, which certainly impacts the numbers I gave. If you wanted to exclude the impact of the blackout, I think you'd see growth that would be closer to flat-ish, which wouldn't be uncommon in a year where we're only renewing 5% of our subs. But we would still anticipate double-digit growth in net, even when you factor in the impact of the blackouts.

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session and also today's conference call. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.