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Stevanato Group S.p.A. Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
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Coruscall Conference Operator
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Good afternoon, this is the Coruscall Conference Operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the Stevanato Group S.p.A. Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and after the presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Ms. Lisa Miles, Chief Communication and IR Officer. Please go ahead, Madam.
Lisa Miles
Chief Communication and IR Officer
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. With me today is Franco Stevanato, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Marco Dal Lago, Chief Financial Officer. We have posted a presentation to accompany today's results on the Investor Relations page of our website, which can be located under the Financial Results tab. I want to remind everyone that some statements being made today are forward-looking and based on current expectations. Actual results may differ materially due to risks outlined in item 3D, Risk Factors, of our most recent annual report on Form 20F filed with the SEC. Please review the Safe Harbor Statement included at the beginning of today's presentation and in our press release. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or update these forward-looking statements except as required by law. Today's presentation may include non-GAAP financial information. Management uses these measures internally to assess performance and believe they may be helpful for investors in evaluating the quality of our financial results, Thank you. of these non-GAAP measures, please refer to the company's most recent earnings press release. And with that, I will now hand the call over to Franco Stevanato.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you for joining us. Today, we review our third quarter performance, share an update on market trends, and discuss the current market environment. Our third quarter financial results were in line with our expectations. Reported and organic revenue grew 8%. High value solutions represented 46% of the total revenue and adjusted EBITDA increased under 50 basis points to 27.2% compared to the third quarter of 2025. Revenue growth was driven by an 11% increase on an organic basis in the biopharmaceutical and diagnostic solutions segment, which offset a 12% decline in the engineering segment. Revenue related to GLP-1s decreased in the third quarter and was approximately 17-18% of the total company revenue. Revenue from non-GLP biologics increased over 30% in the quarter, offsetting the decline from GLP-1s. And, on a year-to-date basis, revenue from non-GLP biologics was up 13%, demonstrating once again the diversity of the broader demand landscape. In the second and third quarters of fiscal 2026, we recorded variable compensation in the BDS segment, tied to lower volumes mostly related to GLP-1 therapies. Turning to next year, we are working through the binding forecast process with our customers. Forecasts are consistent with the trends we experienced thus far in 2026, with increasing demand across our high-value portfolio from most of our customers. However, within our GLP portfolio, we now expect lower volumes than previously anticipated for 2027. This was not entirely unexpected, and we started taking action several months ago to offset this impact. For example, the flexibility of our global operations allowed us to move some capacity to different regions, to accommodate higher demand from other customers. More importantly, we currently expect consistent strong demand in non-GLP biologics in 2027. We are still in the process of finalizing customer production forecasts for next year. and we are confident that we have already backfilled the majority of this revenue. But we now expect this will result in a temporary moderation of growth in fiscal 2027. Looking ahead, GLPs remain a phenomenal drug class and we expect to continue to benefit in the long term. Currently, our GLP revenue is predominantly tied to commercial products from the main originators. However, we are actively working with over 30 global customers for multiple programs in various stages of clinical development. These new customer programs are expected to play an important role in future growth, and they utilize high-value products, including our EasyFill platform and proprietary delivery devices. Today, the global patient penetration is well below 10%. and the opportunity remains significant and largely untapped. The overall demand environment for injectable biologics remains structurally strong, underpinned by long-term durable tailwinds. Scientific innovation is driving global pipelines with novel therapies expanding patient reach. Moreover, technology advancements are providing breakthrough solutions that enhance patient convenience and adherence. New formulation and delivery technologies allow for self-injection of highly viscous and higher volume drugs. This is critical as treatments delivered intravenously in a hospital setting transition to a subcutaneous presentation that can be administered by patients at home. This offers clear advantages for patients and in reducing healthcare costs. Lastly, we continue to see growing demand for high-performing containment and off-the-shelf delivery systems to support the larger wave of biosimilars approaching the market in the coming years. Beyond GLPs, our customers are building a wide biosimilar pipeline, including assets in immunology, oncology, endocrinology and other therapeutic areas that will expand patient access globally and represent a very attractive opportunity for us in the medium and long term. In response to these market trends, we are squarely focused on meeting customer needs with new technology, innovation and additional production capacity. Our Alba syringe platform is a great example of this innovation. It is our highest performing syringe platform and has unique features that have led to growing market demand. In recent weeks, we qualified our first high-volume Alba syringe line in our Piombino d'Ese plant. Customer demand also remains solid across other EasyFill platforms. We continue to run production of our EasyFill cartridges at full utilization and we are progressively increasing production for EasyFill buyers as demand continues to expand to a larger set of customers. Moving to delivery devices, the opportunity pipeline for our proprietary platform continues to grow. Our ALINA, ADAPTUS, and DEORA platforms are in various stages of evaluation for a diverse range of biologic applications, mainly biosimilars, including GLPs and metabolic diseases, endocrinology, immunology, cardiovascular diseases, and other therapeutic areas. Our customers' needs are clear, pointing at solutions that enhance patient usability and adherence, the risk supply chain, provide a better answer to new drug product requirements of modern formulations, and lastly, increase the sustainability and efficiency profile of combination products. We believe we have the right set of products, expertise, and competencies to support our customers with a broad and unique value proposition. Let's turn to the engineering segment. The operations have stabilized, and efforts under our optimization plan have created operational improvements, but financial results in the third quarter were below our expectations. We made good progress with new order intake last quarter, but we ended the third quarter below our target levels of signed new orders. This was due in part to a number of orders that have been delayed from a large customer, which put pressure on the segment in 2026. Our guidance now reflects a slight adjustment to our full year 2026 revenue expectation for the engineering segment. This is expected to be fully offset by better performance in the BDS segment and has no impact on consolidated guidance. Marco will provide more details. Let's review the progress of our growth initiative in US and in Italy. During the third quarter, we continue to scale this investment with discipline. for then enhancing operational maturity and increasing capacity to support customer demand. In Latina, commercial operations for easy-fill syringes are running smoothly and we continue working on customer audit and validation activities. Looking ahead, the team is busy preparing the facility for the next phase of expansion, which is dedicated to easy-fill ready-to-use cartridges. Demand for high-value cartridges remains strong, with the market expanding beyond the traditional cartridge players. Our new RT-400 cartridge lines are the first of their kind, driving significant innovation and production capacity. This includes a new aseptic crimping process. to ensure a sterility at the cartridge interface and maintain closure integrity in aseptic conditions. This is one of the most distinctive features and a key enabler for protecting the final product throughout the sterile packaging flow. With new production of Easy-Fill cartridges in Latina, customers now have greater supply chain security, while at the same time it gives us greater operational flexibility. Moving to features, I'm pleased to report that the site broke even at the gross profit margin level in the third quarter, achieving another important milestone as we scale this multi-year investment. More recently, we shipped the first commercial easy-fill vial order, while customer audit and validation continue alongside ongoing line installations. During the third quarter, we completed the build-out of device manufacturing cleanroom. We remain on track to launch commercial volumes in the next couple of months. We are in the early phase of commercialization for our device programs. Over the next 18 months, our facilities in Fischer's and in Germany will be focused on a significant commercial scale-up for contract manufacturing and our proprietary Alina pen injector. In summary, the overall demand environment for injectable biologics remains solid, driven by strong secular tailwinds such as aging population, scientific innovation, and the rising trend of self-administration of medicine. We have positioned the business in the most attractive area of the market that requires high-performance products. Our broad product portfolio addresses these needs, from our groundbreaking Albus Ranges platform to our large-volume cartridges and our integrated drug delivery systems such as our Alina Pen. Robust market demand in biologics and biosimilars give us the confidence that we can backfill the lower GDP revenue and still grow low single digits in 2027. I'll turn the call over to Marco for a review of our third quarter financial.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
Thanks, Franco. Before I begin, I'd like to clarify that all comparisons refer to the third quarter of 2025. Let's start on page 10. In the third quarter of 2026, revenue grew 8% to 326.1 million, both on a reported basis and organically. This was driven by 11% organic growth in the BDS segment, which offset a 12% revenue decline in the engineering segment. Revenue from high-value solutions increased 1% to 149.4 million, both on a reported basis and organically, and accounted for 46% of total revenue. In the third quarter of 2026, gross profit margin decreased 10 basis points to 29.1% and was unfavorably impacted by increased utility costs, the expected higher depreciation, and lower gross profit in the engineering segment. This was partially offset by the combined improvements in Latina and Fishers and a better mix compared to last year. Operating profit margin increased 110 basis points to 18.5% and adjusted operating profit margin increased 90 basis points to 19.4% in the third quarter of 2026. Net profit grew 16% in the third quarter and amounted to $41.8 million. And diluted earnings per share were $0.15. On an adjusted basis, net profit increased 14% to $44 million and adjusted diluted EPS increased to $0.16. Adjusted EBITDA grew 14% to $88.8 million. and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 150 basis points to 27.2% in the third quarter of 2026. Moving to segment results on page 11. In the third quarter of 2026, revenue from the BDS segment was 294 million, which grew 10% and increased 11% on an organic basis. Revenue from high-value solutions was $149.4 million, increasing 1% both on organic and reported basis, driven by easy-fill syringes and cartridges, and represented approximately 51% of segment revenue. Revenue from other containment and delivery solutions was $144.6 million, which grew 22% and increased 23% on an organic basis. driven by growth in standard syringes and cartridges and included variable compensation tied to GLP therapies. In the third quarter of 2026, gross profit increased by 8.9 million and gross profit margin grew 10 basis points to 32.1%. This was driven by higher revenue, the combined improvements in Fischer's and Latina and a better mix which was offset by higher utilities and depreciation costs. Operating profit margin grew 90 basis points to 23%. In the third quarter of 2026, revenue from the engineering segment decreased 12% to 32 million, primarily due to lower sales in pharma visual inspection and assembly and packaging, which offset growth in after sales activities. In the third quarter of 2026, gross profit margin decreased 20 basis points to 10.2% due to lower revenue, the timing of order intake, and project execution. Cost optimization initiatives helped to improve operating profit margin by 220 basis points to 1.1%. Please turn to the next slide for a review of our balance sheet and cash flow. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of 114.9 million and net debt of 353.7 million. We believe we have adequate liquidity to fund our strategic priorities through a combination of cash on hand, available credit lines, cash generated from operations, and the ability to assess additional financing. For the third quarter of 2026, capital expenditures totaled 44.8 million, mostly related to growth investments in the new plants and for our device programs in Germany. In the third quarter of 2026, net cash from operating activities totaled 57.6 million. Cash used in property, plant and equipment and intangible assets was $36.3 million. In the third quarter of 2026, the company generated free cash flow of $21.7 million. Please turn to the next page. We are reiterating our full year guidance and still expect revenue in the range of $1.260.000.000 and $1.280.000.000. adjusted EBITDA between $335 million and $345.2 million, and adjusted diluted EPS is still expected to range between $0.60 and $0.62 for the fiscal year. We are updating a couple of assumptions in our full year guidance. For fiscal 2026, we now anticipate stronger growth from the BDS segment. now growing organically double digits at the center point of the guidance. This is expected to fully offset the slight revenue decline in the engineering segment compared with our previous guidance. Revenue from the engineering segment is now expected to range between 124 million and 134 million. And finally, we now assume that CAPEX will range between 230 million and 240 million. and net of customer contribution 215 million to 225 million. I will now end the call back to Franco for closing remarks.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
In closing, in the third quarter, we deliver another solid performance in line with our expectation and we remain on track for the full year 2026 objectives. We expect that JLP will continue to be a very good tailwind for us. In the short term, the adjustments to anticipate the GLP-1 volume will temporarily moderate growth in 2027. Based on what we know today, we believe we can still grow low single digits in 2027, driven by February secular trends across the broader biologics area. Without this temporary headwind in 2027, we believe that we would have grown in line with our long-range plan of high single digits to low double digits. We expect that our main KPIs will continue to move in the right direction. This includes continued growth in high-value solutions, expanding margins, and positive free cash flow for next year. Over the medium to long term, GLPs will continue to drive favorable demand with new assets coming to market, the ongoing expansion of indication and upcoming patent cliffs and new biosimilar launches. We have a long history of serving pharma and biotech customers, and this is the natural evolution of any new therapeutic class. As we look beyond 2027, We expect to return to more normalized growth in 2028, underpinned by the strength of the broader biologics market. The demand for injectable biologics remains strong, with more than 9,000 injectable assets in the global drug pipeline. These are in advanced stage undergoing clinical evolution or registration, and more than 60% of those are biologics. Our strategy is firmly anchored in the higher value subset of the market and the business is positioned as a leader in biologic applications. Our strategy is unchanged and we are progressing against our objectives. Operator, we are ready for questions.
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Thank you, this is the Coruscall conference operator. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and 1 on their touch-tone telephone. To remove yourself from the question queue, please press star N2. First question is from David Windley Jeffries.
David Windley
Analyst, Jefferies
Hi. Good morning and good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to try to first clarify on the variable compensation and then ask a follow-up. So on the variable compensation, am I understanding correctly that that's essentially a take or pay? that the client is not using the committed volume and so you're getting consideration in lieu of that. If you can quantify that, I'd love to hear the number. And then as you think about, this is a follow-up, as you think about pursuing non-GLP-1 volumes to backfill that, Are those opportunities the same formats and the same products as what you would have been producing for your GLP-1 clients? Thank you.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
So, Marco speaking. I start from the variable compensation. We cannot disclose the specific laws we have with each single customer and contractor. However, what I can tell you that in this case is related to lower volumes and so the contractual protection we have in place and basically we are in line with what we said before. We have several contractual protection depending customer by customer. can be take or pay, minimum quantities, capacity reservation, cap as contribution or market share protection. In this case, in 2026, it's related to lower volumes compared with the committed binding forecast. We cannot quantify for the reason I mentioned before. What I can tell you is that it's not relevant in the quarter, in the year.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning, David. Franco speaking. Today, this reduction of this temporary demand is linked to particular to syringes, nexa syringes. We already started rapidly to backfill this temporary headwind with our strong demand that we have in particular on the biological injection space. So today we are really starting to do a good job in order to backfill and most of this temporary headwind we already started to backfill. On the top of this, what I would like to add, that on more of the broader aspect, the biologic market, the demand is stronger. And today we have also a strong demand on ALBA, where we are adding capacity in Italy. We have strong demand on cartridges A2 field, both in biologic and also in JP1, because we are starting to ramp up our capacity for drug delivery system. So we have done a good job in order to backfill this capacity in order to maintain a low single digit in 2027 despite this temporary headwind.
David Windley
Analyst, Jefferies
If I can add more clarification, in the statement that the variable compensation is not material to the quarter. I think you also are highlighting that you're taking some amount in the third quarter related to the second quarter. So I guess both of those are relatively small. Is the size of those small because the relative shortfall was small or is that more a result of where the protections kick in? Because it looks like your GLP-1 production in the quarter was materially below what you would have expected. Thanks for that last clarification.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
Again, I need to reiterate what I told you before. We cannot disclose the details about the clauses we have in each single contract. We have protection in place and in agreement with the customer, we started to recognize the amount in our P&L. We are growing in the BDS segment as expected. We are growing 12.2% organically in the nine months. And for our long term contract, we have protection in place that in this case is not significant with respect of our revenue.
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Next question is from Avantika Dabaria, Bank of America.
Avantika Dabaria
Analyst, Bank of America
Thank you for the question. And then just to clarify on the GLP-1 headwind, can you give us some more color on whether it's concentrated in a single customer or more widespread? And then I have a follow up.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yes, good morning. Yes, I confirm that this temporary headwind in 2027, it is tied to one customer.
Avantika Dabaria
Analyst, Bank of America
Got it. And then on the non-GLP-1 biologics growth in 3Q, can you give us some color on what was the primary driver for the strong volumes or existing programs and how should we think about this growth going into 2027? Yes.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you for the question. Today, Stevanato Group is extremely active in the biologic space. Biologic space is where there are many thousands of new molecules. We're talking about approximately more than 9,000 molecules that are in phase 2 and phase 3 in different therapeutic classes. We're talking about monoclonal antibody, biosimilar mRNA application, wide range of biosimilar for multiple therapeutic area like immunology, inflammatory, rare disease oncology. And Stevanato is actively working with several customers on a worldwide basis in order to validate our ALBA technology, that's where we are investing capacity in Italy, We have a huge portfolio, a new program on cartridges ready to fill a different format where we are heavily investing capacity in Pium Bino Dese and into Latina. And also we have a big program in order to ramp up capacity for our drug delivery strategy through our Alina program in Germany. and with our drug deliveries that we are building up in our plant infusion. Overall, with this program that we have, we are able to backfill this temporary headwind that we are facing in 2027. And despite this, single customer will be able to be low single digit in 2027. Even more, we are confident that beyond 2027, we will normalize and we go back to our normalized growth.
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Next question is from Anna Snopkowski, KeyBank.
Anna Snopkowski
Analyst, KeyBanc
Hi, this is Anna Snepkowski on for Paul Knight. Thank you for taking my questions. I have two, but maybe to start on your device portfolio, you mentioned you're going to launch commercial volumes for the Alina Pen in the coming months. Do you think you could just remind us whether you support any commercial therapies today and what your pipeline looks like? And then maybe just your long-term view on the growth for delivery devices. And then I have one follow-up.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Good morning, Franco speaking. Yes, I'm confirming that we have received a certain number of validations and registrations in the first six months to our ALINA program, our IP product that we are going to produce in Germany, and we are ramping up capacity even more in the next years to come. We are waiting for other registration and validation in the second part of the year. And we are directly engaged with a multiple number of customers and biosimilar customers in our Liragutide program and other biologic applications. So today is one of our strategies in Stevanato Group to not only serve our easy-fill platform, but also provide our device program with priority number one through our IP, where we are going to produce in our plant in Germany, and this will represent and incremental revenue generation in the next years to come. And also in parallel, we are working in a selective way to certain big international customers to work in a sort of CMO business model. We have active programs that we provide to our plant in Germany, but even more in our plant in Fischer, we are ramping up a big department production for our big U.S. client.
Anna Snopkowski
Analyst, KeyBanc
Great, thank you. And then maybe just a follow up, looking at 2027 growth, could you just walk us through your assumptions for the different segments as well as GLP-1 growth? And are you assuming another year of declines on the engineering side? Thank you.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
Maybe I'll start with Suncolor about 2027. A little bit early we will provide full guidance in the next turning call beginning of March. However, what I can tell you is that visibility remains strong despite the lower than anticipated forecast from GLP we mentioned. We already launched action to backfill the capacity for 2027 that is mainly related to nexus syringes. and overall the demand across injectable biologics is strong and today we are confident we will be able to cover most. As mentioned here, today we grew 13% in non-GLP-1 biologics, giving us the confidence that we can backfill the GLP-1 customer temporary weakness. In particular, we see great traction on ALBA We recently launched the Alba industrial line following the strong demand we can see and the growth we had in third quarter. We mentioned many times that for RTU cartridges we are fully booked for most of 2027. For NEXA, as mentioned, we started backfilling, being able to backfill most of the capacity for 2027. and last but not least you mentioned before that we are gaining traction with more and more visibility our Alina pen that is growing significantly compared with the current volume so the our portfolio demonstrate that is stronger and we can leverage strong demand and visibility into the market if you can add a little bit more color
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
In particular, in the BDS segment, this year, also last year, we were able to deliver double-digit growth because, like Marco said, biologic market, the demand is robust and we have a strong traction with our high-value product platform. Also, if you can go back to our GLP, GLP-1 is a phenomenal drug class, and this will continue to grow in the next year to come. Today, if you look a little bit at the level of penetration, we are below 10% of the full worldwide patient penetration. And besides the two big originators, there is a lot of new customers coming on board. in Stevanato Group, we are active with more than 30 customers with more than 50 programs through most of our high-value products. So the message is that we are now facing a temporary headwind 2027 that is going to adjust our growth based on our strategy. But if you look more than medium term projectors in Stevanato Group, we are optimistic and confident that we are going in the good direction in improving revenue and also margin and the generation of cash.
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Next question is from Chad Wierowski, TD Cohen.
Chad Wierowski
Analyst, TD Cowen
Hey, everyone. You know, it looks like Annex 1, the European regulation, is contributing a couple hundred basis points to the market broadly in containment and components. So curious if you're seeing that, if there's any way you could help us quantify the tailwind. Is that helping in 2027? And then similar to that question, I guess, are you seeing the trend happen in the U.S. as well? And is that a similar sized market opportunity for you?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yes. Today, this is the next one that we're starting to monitor carefully since two years. We see that it's going to give benefit to Stevanato. to convince pharmaceutical customer to move into the easy-fill direction instead to continue to use bulk technology. I make an example on cartridges ready to fill that historically the cartridges was primarily spread across very few customer and many more. Today, we see that this market demand is extended with a wide range of customers and different therapeutic classes in biologics from 1mL, 3mL, 5mL, 3mL. We see that the adoption of easy-field technology, in particular for cartridges into vial, is helping to boost our growth in this product category. Another example that we see is that already some existing customers that have commercial product in bulk cartridges, they have decided to convert into ready to fill cartridges. So we see that this will help to boost, increase our revenue in the future around our easy fill product in particular cartridges and via.
Chad Wierowski
Analyst, TD Cowen
Thanks. And then just on that one GLP-1 customer, Is this like a change in format? Is this going to zero for them or is this more of like a oversupply and working down inventory? Can you just give a little bit more color on kind of the dynamics there without obviously disclosing the partners?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
So we cannot disclose information about our customer. What we can see that is a temporary headwind that we are facing is we have to say that the JP1 is at the beginning and is quite common at the beginning of this launch of the product in the market that can have some temporary fluctuation. This is a Traditional historical customer is a market leader. I think that we are not concerned at all. We consider more a temporary headwind in 2027, non-affected long-term range.
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Next question is from Larry Solo, CJS Securities.
Unknown
Analyst
Great, thanks. Just to follow up on that.
Larry Solow
Analyst, CJS Securities
Good morning, Eric. Good afternoon, everybody. Following up on that question, what gives you the confidence? I know it's hard to answer, but it's a temporary headwind. I know you can't start to give us any real color, but it doesn't sound like you've lost any share or anything with this customer. It sounds like the customer, it's customer specific issues. What gives you that confidence? They're going to reinvigorate their demand or their growth. It feels like it's just perhaps your alignment with, you know, you may not be on the lead. There are two horses in this race, clearly, right? And perhaps your proportion is more on horse number two than horse number one. I mean, that sounds like that's clearly the issue. I mean, I don't know if you can confirm that, but am I in the right direction there?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
So, first of all, it's difficult for us because we cannot enter in the confidentiality of the contract we have with our customers. Usually with our big international customers in general, we are protected with a long-term contract. We are covered by different agreements that can be by quantity, CAPES contribution, take or pay formula, market share or certain binding that we agree. So the nature of the partnership that we have enhance us to have a very clear and transparent relationship that is the nature of what Stevanato is doing since more than 20 to 30 years. We are not concerned that we are losing market share at all. Even more is the opposite. We see that the Stevanato Group is playing an active role in this GLP-1 opportunity in the next years to come because we are well spread into the originator and also we are active working in the medium term with tens of programs like I mentioned to you. We have more than 30 active customers with more than 50 programs. And this is one of the reasons why we have a really have done a very good job inside the organization to backfill this temporary headwind that we are going to face only in 2027.
Larry Solow
Analyst, CJS Securities
Okay, that's fair. So it sounds like you're not losing share, but perhaps your customer has lost share. But I'll leave it at that, I guess. I guess just to follow up, you still had a pretty good quarter. This quarter, actually, your revenue was really strong. You mentioned a little lower GLP. You're not lowering the guidance for this year. Just as you look out to next year, I know you're not ready to break out GLP versus non-GLP-1 sales, but are you seeing an acceleration on the non-GLP-1 side?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Like already Marco mentioned before, today we're happy about this solid quarter three that we have delivered. We are on track to achieve our 2026 objective. Even more, if you look at the pipeline that we have in biologic, at the trend that we have in biologic, we have delivered plus 30% this quarter compared to last quarter. And on the year-to-date basis, we are plus 13%. But it's the nature of the program that we have behind. We have many programs. Well spread, equally spread between Alba Technology, cartridges A2Fill, BioA2Fill drug delivery system. So all these combination of elements are going directly in the direction of the investment that we are doing in Italy, in Germany, in Fischer. This is why we are confident that we will be able to Backfield 2027 to deliver another growth in 2027. More soft, that was our expectation, but even more what is important, the sentiment that I want to pass to all of you, that our trajectory in the medium term is intact because of the quantity of the program where Stevanato is engaged in biologic and also in GP1.
Larry Solow
Analyst, CJS Securities
Okay, I'll grab the call. I could squeeze one last one in. Great to see fishers get to break even this quarter, at least on a gross profit level. Does the slowdown in GLPs, at least temporarily, does that kind of slow or maybe push out a little bit the ramp, particularly in fishers, towards profitability?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
This program of fisheries on track, Our program is to be full up and running at the end of 2028 with our capacity expansion on syringes. We plan to add capacity for vial ready to fill that we are starting to do the first commercial revenue in this quarter. We will add also ALBA technology and even more we are starting now to ramp up our big department for the device that we start to generate the commercial revenue in 2027. Everything's on track and the demand is robust.
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Next question is from Mac Airtalk, Stevens.
Mac Airtalk
Analyst, Stevens
Hey, good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Maybe just a couple from me. And following up on Anna's question earlier, I'd love to just get a sense of what's going on within the underlying engineering order trends, just to kind of put a final point on the trends that you're seeing there. Thanks.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
So on the engineering, like I mentioned, the team is making a good operational progress, like already mentioned in the several quarters, what we are doing in terms of supply chain, project management and technical department, we are going to do a good job. In the meantime, we're building a strong pipeline, a new program. What we are facing, we're struggling, is the delay in the conversion in orders. In fact, the series of Y in this quarter, we were lower compared to our expectation. This was due also in part to the delay of orders from a key customer that also lowered the volume. It also had to create some pressure in the 2026, and also we do in 2027. So all over all, from an operational point of view, we are fine. We are on track. Where we are struggling today is the conversion of the pipeline into orders. This is the reason why we have decided to review together with Marco the guidance for the Outlook of 2026. And we are much more compensated with the BDS segment.
Mac Airtalk
Analyst, Stevens
Yeah. And just to clarify, it sounds like outside of that single customer Things are kind of progressing as expected. It's just more of a 2027 outlook at this point.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
So we, like I mentioned, from an operational point of view, between our two plants in Italy, in Padova and Bologna, the plants in Denmark, we have achieved a meaningful operational improvement. The pipeline we have built with our sales organization is good. Where we are facing some delay is in the conversion into orders. This is the reason why. For what is elected to 2027, despite also this new slowdown with one customer, We are culturally optimistic that at a certain point this pipeline will translate in order. But from the moment that we have the okay from the customer to go with Stevanato, we see because of the technicality, we talk about particularly special assembly machine, sometimes it takes months to define the specification and to sign the order. This is where we are struggling at this moment.
Mac Airtalk
Analyst, Stevens
Got it. Thank you.
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Next question is from Doug Schenkel, UBS.
Doug Schenkel
Analyst, UBS
Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. Just to clean up, with high value solutions growing 1% and accounting for about 46% of Q3 sales, Should we still be modeling mix of 47% to 48% for the year? And if so, which products or customer programs are going to drive that implied Q4 step up? So that's the first one. Second one is on backfilling most of the GLP-1 shortfall. If you've done that already or you're on a path to do that, Why is next year's growth target still below your longer term outlook? I'm just trying to get at how firm is the replacement revenue? And I guess by extension, how do those programs compare from a timing, visibility and profitability standpoint? Thank you.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
Thanks for the question, Doug. I'll start with the high value solutions. Yes, we reiterate our guidance from 47 to 48% as a percentage of revenue. It is normal for us in some quarterly fluctuations in the mix in high value products. You are giving me the opportunity to clarify that we refer to better mix because we are gaining a lot of traction in products like Alba and Isifil cartridges that are very accretive for us. So that's why we refer also in Q3 to better mix. So, we are confident and reiterating our guidance that is implying almost 50% high value solution in Q4. And the main driver are again syringes, Nexus syringes and easy fill vials and cartridges for that.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Today, if I capture your second question, we We believe we will be on the range of low single-digit in 2027 because we have already backfilled most of these ranges. These are high-value products ranges NEXA, but we are not complete to have completed this backfill because this is taking time. So we have a strong pipeline of new customers coming, but we need also still some quarters to finalize additional validation for new program. Just to give an order of magnitude, if we were for this temporary headwind, we believe we would have grown in line with our long-range plan of high single digit to low double digit in 2027. And again, the BDS segment is already delivering this performance since now close to two years.
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Next question is from Curtis Miles, BNP Paribas.
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Thank you for taking my questions. First, I just wanted to start on the other containment solutions. Maybe can you give a little bit of additional color on what drove that strong 23% growth there? It sounds like it wasn't related to the GLP-1 competition, so any additional color will be good. And then secondly, just on the BDS gross margin, can you maybe quantify the impact of the higher utility costs that were called out and maybe is that expected to continue into Q4 and is sort of your view of expansion in Q4 still a good assumption? Thank you.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
So thanks for the question, Curtis. We start from other containment delivery solution. Q3 was stronger. We can see strong demand in bulk cartridges. We started to gain interaction with our CMO contracts for drug delivery system in Fishers. So all over all in the quarter, other containment are growing. We also included in other containment the variable compensation because we decided to put there because we did not deliver the product and we didn't want to inflate our main KPIs like high value solutions and GLP-1 revenue. so contributed also these. But I was saying before for high value solution we can see quarterly fluctuation and in Q4 we will talk about different mix and different figures. The question about utility is very clear as you know very well in Europe the gas price went up significantly in Q3 and with that also the energy price went up We have a long term relationship with our customers with the adjusting price mechanism in place and fair discussions ongoing. But it's taking a little bit of time to adjust the prices when the increase is so sudden, I would say. About Q4 is a very good question. It depends obviously also the geopolitical situation. We are cautiously assuming that it will stay slightly above Q3 prices and it is embedded in our guidance. We had, let's say, similar experience in 2022 when the gas price went up significantly and we are very confident we can manage the situation.
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Next question is from Albert Hu, C.T.
Albert Hu
Analyst, Citi
Perfect. Thanks for taking the question. So you called this GLP headwind a temporary moderation in 2027. So without this headwind, you also mentioned the year could be back to the LRP. Does that mean the current expectation is for 2028 to be the LRP year that you're hitting as the GLP-1 moderations lapse? And if you can remind us what that LRP algo means for margins and EPS. Just want to make sure we get the timing here right. Appreciate it.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Besides the fact that we will, for what is related to the 2027 number, we will share on March what is beyond 2027 based on the pipeline that we have both in Biologic, in JP1, in other products. We would expect to return a more normalized growth beyond 2027 in terms of revenue and to be also in the trajectory of our strategy in order to reinforce our margin and generation of cash and to expand our high-value product. Remember, during the capital market day, our goal was to be in high single-digit, low double-digit in terms of revenue. to run on a range of 20, 30, 29, 30% of EBITDA to generate good cash flow in order to return from our investment. Today, we are still in this trajectory, looking at the nature of the program that we have with our customers that are mostly into the high-value product range between ALBA, cartridges to fill, Nexus ranges, and drug delivery system and virus to fill. So we are confirming this, our strategy.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
And as Franco mentioned, we have several tools to further improve our profitability after doing it in 25 and 26. Particularly, we just reached break-even in fishers. Our plan is to keep on expanding profitability in Latina fishers, leveraging the capacity we install in high-value products. So, we can play different tools in order to further expand our profitability. That is our goal for the years to come.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
In fact, last point, beside this moderate growth that we face temporarily in 2027, based on the strategy and also the fact that we are bringing full potential, our big investment, we continue to be in the right direction also in 2027 to reinforce our, expand our margin and to generate also better free cash flow in 2027.
Albert Hu
Analyst, Citi
Perfect, thank you. And then maybe moving to margin side, it's nice to see Fishers hitting gross margins very even here. Can you remind us what this now means for BES margins? If you can walk us through how Fishers, Latina, given the progress in 3Q, how they played part in the margin elder this year? and then I guess what does that set up BDS margins to be next year, maybe just on the broader level of thinking. Appreciate it.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
While it's too early to provide to you a full model for 2027, what we can tell you is that we have a clear plan for fishers to fully ramp up at the end of 2028. We are installing their capacity with the large majority for high value solutions where the gross profit margin is from 40% to 70% depending on the type of products. So all over all, we expect fissures to be accretive for the segment when fully ramp up. To get there, it will be a step by step, quarter after quarter improvement in operational KPIs and in financial consequently. Today, as a reminder, We stole approximately 50% of the capacity in fissures and we are not using at full speed. So we can see month after month improvement in utilization and in further installation of value products and we believe we will be able to reach the full capacity at the end of 2028.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Same is for Latina. We are starting to produce Nexus ranges since now two years. We are satisfied about the marginality that we are able to deliver this high-value product in Latina. On the top of this, we are starting now to do the validation and the SAT of our L2 400 cartridges that is a high-value product that will start to generate revenue in 2027. This is another element that will help to continue to grow in 2027.
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Next question is from Justin Bowers, Deutsche Bank.
Justin Bowers
Analyst, Deutsche Bank
Hi, good afternoon slash morning. Just wanted to clarify a couple of comments that you've made thus far. So one, if the GLPs were not de-selling related to this one program, you would be growing within the LRP. So it sounds like this is the primary headwind. Is there any other headwinds or is this it, number one? Number two, I also want to clarify that this is isolated to the syringes and not any part of the portfolio.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
So, today this temporary headwind that we are facing in 2027 is related to Nexus syringes. We don't have up to now other headwinds in 2026 or 2027. and I want to say maybe it's the reverse. The demand that we have in our high-value product is quite robust. Like I mentioned to you, we have a strong demand on cartridges to fill. This is why we are blocked. We continue to invest in capacity. The same is for the ALBA technology. Also, if you look, also the capacity that we are building up for our device program, both Alina and while we work in the CMO business model, also here the capacity that we put in place is driven by the demand from the customer. So to your question, it's related to one customer, to the syringes is the only headwind that we are facing at this moment.
Justin Bowers
Analyst, Deutsche Bank
Thank you. I appreciate that. And then follow up to that would be It sounds like you've backfilled most of the demand. And I just want to confirm that that's just the timing of sort of the reason why it's not additive or fully replacing the growth next year is just phasing and timing and customer acceptance and validation. So that's part one. And then part two would be, if you didn't have this headwind in GLP-1, would you have enough capacity to meet The demand for the temporary headwinding glyphs and this additional demand that you're backfilling in other parts of biologics, or would that require you to add additional capacity?
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yes. So today we have started to backfill most of this capacity with our syringes. And we have done a good job because we have backfilled with many customers in Nexus ranges. It's also true that this requires some timing to fully recover all the capacity. I think we need also 2027 to backfill. We see that is only a temporary moment because looking ahead, the pipeline that we have in all our product portfolio, high value product, we have a robust demand that will enhance really to continue to grow in the next year on this range of high single digit, low double digit. Like I mentioned to you today, if you were not for this temporary headwind, there was no particular issue to continue to grow high single digit and BDS segment most probably on double digit. It's also true that if we were not with this customer, also Nexus Ranger, we were in a situation to be close to full capacity in this moment. The sentiment I want to pass to you, this is a temporary in 2027 that we have mostly backfill, but because of the nature of the entity of this temporary headwind, it is going to take a little bit more quarters. Our goal is to normalize in 2028.
Marco Dal Lago
Chief Financial Officer
And we have a plan to add capacity in fish as part of our plan to your question. Our plan is matching the future capacity we have in our medium term plan.
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Next question is from Anna Snopkowski, KeyBank.
Anna Snopkowski
Analyst, KeyBanc
Hi, just one follow up for me on the engineering side. I think you kind of touched on this with Mac's question earlier, but are the delayed orders you're seeing in engineering tied to the same GLP-1 customer you mentioned? And would you consider any alternatives for engineering? Thank you.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Yes, the delay that we are facing and that will generate temporary in 2027 both in the BDS segment and engineering are tied to the same customer, correct? In the meantime, we have, like I mentioned to you before, a strong pipeline of new orders from existing international customer, new customer, both in inspection assembly. The only point that we are struggling, that is the conversion of this pipeline into the confirm orders.
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Next question is from Matt Lero, William Blair.
Franco Stevanato
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
What I can add you more is that today what we are going to monitor more and more is in Stevanato Group is that In the engineering segment, we are not where we were looking to be. We have performed some good operational progress, but we are not in the situation where we are looking. In fact, in Stevanato Group today, like I mentioned to you already last time, we continue to assess internally What is the best interest from a strategic point of view in order to serve better our customers, but even more also to grow our portfolio in high value solution and expanding margin. So coming back to the engineering, that we have to split the discussion into two parts. First, for what is related to our internal competitive advantages that we launched more than 30-40 years, that is the internal technology that we developed for the group, internal glass converting, easy-fill technology, needle assembly. And this has enhanced Stevanato to take this strong position into the biologic The second aspect of the engineering division is the visual inspection and assembly business. That is good business, but they remain diluted to our corporate margin. While this really brings this inspection and assembly good, is diluted, is bringing also good value for the customer, we continue to assess inside of Stevanato Group what is the best for Stevanato. Today, at the end of the game, we want to really have a laser focus to meet the need of our customer, in particular for everything that is related to injectable space, and even more to reposition our product to high-value product. and we continue to assess this. If you look also what we have done months ago, we have announced in that we have divested the California plants. Today our goal is more and more to focalize all our organizations in order to be the best partner for our biologic space and even more to really reposition our product.
Lisa Miles
Chief Communication and IR Officer
Operator, any last questions?
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We have no more questions registered at this time. The floor is back to you for any closing remarks.
Lisa Miles
Chief Communication and IR Officer
I just want to thank everyone for joining the Stevanato Group third quarter 2026 earnings call, and we look forward to future engagements. Have a good day.
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