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Sunrise Realty Trust, Inc. Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript
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Good morning, and welcome to the Sunrise Realty Trust Third Quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct the question and answer session, and instructions will be given at that time. I would now like to turn the call over to Gabe Okatz, Chief Legal Officer. Please go ahead.
Gabe Okatz
Chief Legal Officer
Good morning, and thank you all for joining Sunrise Realty Trust's earnings call for the quarter-ended September 30th, 2026. I'm joined this morning by Len Tannenbaum, our Executive Chairman, Brian Sedrish, our Chief Executive Officer, and Brandon Hetzel, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to note that this call is being recorded. Replay information is included in our October 2026 press release and is posted on the investor relations portion of our website at SunriseRealtyTrust.com. along with our third quarter 2026 earnings release and investor presentation. Today's conference call includes forward-looking statements and projections that reflect the company's current views with respect to, among other things, market developments, our investment pipeline, anticipated portfolio yield, financial performance and projections in 2026 and beyond, the anticipated benefits of our merger with Sunrise Realty Trust and our share repurchase program. These statements are subject to inherent uncertainties in predicting future results. Please refer to Sunrise Realty Trust's most recent periodic filings with the SEC, including our Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, for certain conditions and significant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements and projections. During today's conference call, management will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including distributable earnings. Please see our third quarter earnings release available on our website for reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures with our most directly comparable GAAP measures. The format for today's call is as follows. Len will discuss our recent merger with SRT and our share repurchase program. Brian will cover the commercial real estate lending market, our portfolio, and investment pipeline. And Brandon will review our financial results and position. After that, we'll open the lines for Q&A. With that, I will now turn the call over to our Executive Chairman, Len Tannenbaum.
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
Thank you, Gabriel, and good morning. Since our last earnings call, Suns reached an important milestone. On November 5th, we completed our merger with Southern Realty Trust, or SRT, our affiliated private mortgage REIT. At Suns' October 23rd special meeting, approximately 91.6% of votes cast approved the issuance of Suns common stock in connection with the merger. with approximately 60% of the outstanding shares represented. At SRT's October 23rd special meeting, a majority of SRT's outstanding shares approved the merger. We thank stockholders of both companies for their support, and I am pleased to welcome former SRT stockholders at Sun Stockholders. We also welcome Howard Sudnow, a former independent SRT director, to the Sun's board as an additional independent director. This merger creates a larger, more efficient public CRE lending platform. On an unaudited pro forma basis, as of September 30, 2026, as if the merger had occurred on that date, the combined portfolio would have had approximately $478.6 million of total loan commitments and $393.1 million of outstanding principal. We issued approximately 8.5 million shares and an exchange ratio of 1.45 SunShares per SRT share. The combined company has approximately 22 million shares outstanding with roughly 38.5% held by former SRT stockholders. Our amended and restated management agreement is now in effect. It reduces the incentive fee from 20% to 17.5%. and the annual hurdle rate from 8% to 7%. Additionally, beginning in the first quarter of 2027, base management fees will be reduced by $250,000 for each quarter of 2027, totaling $1 million for the benefit of Suns stockholders. With the merger complete, our focus is on realizing the benefits of that scale. We believe our larger equity base can, one, broadened financing options, potentially including unsecured debt, two, support greater trading liquidity, and three, reduce duplicative costs. Given our team's experience managing both portfolios, which shared 100% overlap in the same loans, we do not anticipate any integration risk. We also believe opportunistic share repurchases can be an attractive use of capital. In October, our board authorized a $20 million share repurchase program through December 31, 2027. With that, I will now turn it over to Brian Sedrish, our Chief Executive Officer.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Glenn, and good morning. I'll start with the market, then cover new investment activity and the portfolio. Higher rates and renewed volatility created additional pressure for borrowers during the quarter. Federal Reserve raised its policy rate in September for the first time since 2023, and in early October, the 10-year Treasury yield touched its highest level since 2002 before easing. That volatility comes against a substantial maturity backdrop. According to the Mortgage Bankers Association, approximately $875 billion of commercial and multifamily mortgages are scheduled to mature in 2027. and another $652 billion in 2027. For sponsors with loans coming due, refinancing proceeds can fall short of outstanding debt balances, creating demand for additional equity and structured capital, which increases the value of lenders that can commit and execute with certainty. That environment plays to how Suns is built. We do not seek to compete primarily on price for stabilized assets. where banks and other lenders focus. We earn our returns by underwriting transitional business plans and negotiating structure, which allows us to operate with modest corporate leverage and help limit the financing and liquidity pressures that can affect more heavily levered lenders. Subsequent to the completion of the merger, given our low leverage and expanded capital base, we have ample capacity to deploy across new transactions. We were deliberate with new commitments during a volatile third quarter, and we continued to prioritize pricing, structure, and sponsor quality over deployment volume. Since quarter end, our activity has picked up. Subsequent to quarter end, Suns closed on approximately $3 million senior secured loan for buildings A and B of Someone Blanc, a luxury residential project in Park City, Utah. We were already a lender on the adjacent building, and following the merger, Suns' commitment across all three buildings now total approximately $17 million. The TCG real estate platform is advancing transactions under signed term sheets. As discussed last quarter, one is a proposed $93 million senior construction loan for a multifamily development in Texas comprising a $62 million A note with a third-party partner and a $31 million B note expected to be held by Suns. We expect this transaction to close shortly. The other transactions, which have signed term sheets, total $169 million. All transactions were made subject to diligence, documentation, and customary closing conditions. Turning to our portfolio, on October 9, we completed the $41 million sale of the Thompson San Antonio through our joint venture, consisting of $9 million in purchase or cash and $32 million of Senior Secured Financing, now held entirely by Suns following the merger. The transaction closed in line with our investment's carrying value before closing costs and transaction expenses. The loan bears interest at a fixed rate, increasing scale from 8% to 10% rates throughout the term. The buyer intends to fund additional cash equity towards capital improvements. Separately, Suns continues to pursue available remedies under the former sponsor's guarantee. Following the sale, Sons no longer holds any owned real estate. All loans in our portfolio were current and performing at September 30 and remain so today. Looking ahead, we are primarily focused on deploying Sons Capital into loans that meet our underwriting standards, opportunistically executing the share repurchase program, and continuing to fund construction commitments within our existing book. A performing loan portfolio, low leverage, and an expanded equity base support the financial flexibility to pursue these priorities selectively. I will now turn to Brandon Hetzel, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results.
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Thank you, Brian. For the quarter ended September 30, 2026, we generate net interest income of $5.8 million and Distributable Earnings of $3.2 million or $0.24 per basic weighted average common share. GAAP net income was $2.9 million or $0.21 per basic weighted average common share. These results included approximately $900,000 or $0.06 per share of one-time merger related costs. For the nine months ended September 30, 2026, we generated net interest income of $18.9 million and distributable earnings of $11.8 million or 89 cents per basic weighted average common share compared to 90 cents per share of dividends declared for the same period. GAAP net income for the nine months was 10.2 million or 75 cents per basic weighted average common share. We believe that providing distributable earnings is helpful to stockholders in assessing the overall performance of Sun's business. Distributable earnings represents net income computed in accordance with GAAP, excluding non-cash items such as stock compensation expense, unrealized gains or losses, and the provision for current expected credit losses. In the third quarter, Suns funded $17.1 million of new and existing loans and received $58.9 million of repayments, primarily reflecting the July repayment of the Panther National Senior Term Loan and Construction Revolver. We ended September 30th with $313.9 million of loan commitments and $256.9 million of principal outstanding across 12 loans, all current and performing, with a weighted average estimated portfolio yield to maturity of approximately 12%. Following the Thompson San Antonio sale and the Summit Blanc loan, as of October 30, 2026, Sun's standalone portfolio consisted of $336.3 million of current commitments and 283.6 million of principal outstanding across 14 loans. As of September 30th, 2026, our CECL reserve was approximately 900,000 or 36 basis points of loans held at carrying value and all 12 loans in our standalone portfolio were risk-rated too. As of September 30th, 2026, approximately 95% of our loan principal was floating rate with a weighted average SOFR floor of approximately 3.9%. We estimate that a 100 basis point increase in benchmark rates would increase our annual interest income by approximately 1.9 million, while a 100 basis point decrease would only reduce it by approximately 500,000, which reflecting the protection provided by our rate floors in each case before any change in borrowing costs. As of September 30th, 2026, our total outstanding, our debt outstanding was approximately 96.8 million, representing a debt to equity ratio of approximately 0.5 times. On a standalone basis, as of September 30th, 2026, Suns had total assets of 285.4 million, and our total shareholder equity was 181 million, with a book value of $13.39 per share. For the quarter ended September 30, 2026, the Board of Directors declared a 30-cent common stock dividend per share outstanding, which was paid on October 15, 2026, to shareholders of record as of September 30, 2026. In connection with the merger, the Board declared a prorated stub period dividend of 9 cents per share, or approximately $1.2 million, covering the period from October 1 through November 4, 2026, which was paid on November 5, to stockholders of record as of November 2nd, 2026. We expect the board to declare a dividend for the remainder of the fourth quarter, covering November 5th through December 31st, 2026, with the amount and record date to be announced in the ordinary course. With that, I will now turn it back over to the operator to start the Q&A.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. If you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press star one again. We also ask that you wait for your name and company to be announced before proceeding with your question. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question will be coming from the line of Gaurav Mehta of Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Thank you. Good morning.
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners
I wanted to ask you if you could discuss your balance sheet targets post-merger for the combined company.
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Sure. We haven't disclosed the balance sheet numbers as we're still working on the purchase price accounting and due to the timing of the deal closing, that has not been complete. But we did put into the investor presentation what the current commitments on a combined basis as of 9.30 would have been. which was about commitments of $478.6 million with principal outstanding of about $393.1 million.
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners
Okay. Second question, I think remarks talked about $169 million in signed term sheets. Are you going to provide some more color on that? Are those loans mostly residential? And any color on that would be helpful.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Sure. Hi, Gar. So those deals are deals we've been spending a lot of time on. They are, to answer your question, they are residential plays where, in one case, there's an existing very high-end luxury destination home resort where ultimately we would potentially be providing the capital to help improve and build additional homes for sale. So there's that one. We have another one where, again, a very successful residential community. We'd be helping a very similar in the capital to help continue to add value in that site. And then lastly, another play, again, all residential as well. These are both condos and single family homes. where, again, the sponsor needs the requisite capital to help them continue to deliver product to their clients. I think generally, broadly, what I'll say is we found a lot of interest in those types of transactions and we think we're leaning into those, really take advantage of our expertise, so we've been spending a lot of time in those. And then the other thing I might add is there's just much less competition in that type of and others. So I think we find that we can deliver pretty interesting, attractive returns to our shareholders through those types of deals.
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners
Okay. And then lastly, you have one loan maturing in December 26 in Fort Lauderdale. Are you guys expecting that loan to be repaid or do you guys expect that to be extended?
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
The answer to that question is if we do extend out It would be for a relatively short period of time. That deal is a deal that we put on nearly three years ago. The sponsor has done exactly what they said they were going to do in terms of delivering on time, actually ahead of time and on budget. They pre-sold of those for sale condos a little over 50% of those. The units look great in the inventories there, so the logical takeout is an inventory loan. The question just is, is because the loan's maturing in December, whether the sponsor needs a couple more months. They're going to have a signed term sheet shortly. So we may end up extending out for a couple months. If we do, we look at that as extremely positive. Alternatively, the sponsor may just decide to just pay us out. It's just a question of It's just a question of timing as to how quickly they can bring it all together. Ideally, we'd like to have the opportunity to keep it out a little bit longer. It's been a great performing loan for us, and we really like the sponsorship.
Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners
All right, thank you. That's all I have. Thank you.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
One moment for the next question, please. Our next question will be coming from the line of Jade Romani of KBW. Please go ahead.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
Thank you very much. Could you provide a book value estimate pro forma for the merger close?
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
We have not disclosed the pro forma book value due to not having the final purchase price accounting finished due to the timing of the recent close of the merger. But we did, I believe in the proxy, we did have an estimate as of 6-30.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
Okay.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
Just thinking about the dividend beyond the next declaration, which would be for a partial period, what's a reasonable range to assume?
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
I think that we are going to pay a subdividend. The Board still hasn't determined it. The intention is to pay out close to our income for the year. So I think that's going to be the balance this year. And then we'll look at the pro forma results for next year and make a determination next year.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
Is there a target ROE we could apply to what we think pro forma book value is to make an estimate?
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
I think the tough part of where we are today is, and I think you can see it in the numbers, is we're under levered. and we have a lot of capacity. The good news, we have a lot of capacity to do deals. The bad news is a lot of these deals that Brian was talking about earlier, I would have expected to close already. Everything takes longer. And so what's gonna drive earnings is getting us back to appropriate leverage and driving the right ROE for our stockholders. And so I think that's been an indicator that I've been looking for over the next three to four months as we announce deals as they close, and we close them, that should be driving our stock in future ROE.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
What's a reasonable target for annual originations and debt-to-equity ratio?
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
Target debt-to-equity ratio is at least one-to-one, right? And so we're not anywhere close to that, unfortunately. but that's still very low for mortgage rates to have a one-to-one debt-to-equity ratio. And we have approximately, I'm now rounding numbers, 300 million of SHIB equity and drawing, what are we, 400-something million? I mean, actual draws. 393. Yeah, 393. So we should be 200 more million dollars outstanding drawn for us to achieve the ROE targets that we really are looking for. I don't have specific targets. I just wanted to say we are definitely too low today, given we're only $100 million of leverage on a $300 million-ish equity base. So we need another $200 million of deals, not with closed, but closed in fund, or fund existing commitments, for us to achieve a much better ROE.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
Okay. Switching gears, when you think of turmoil that's playing out in the commercial real estate landscape, so we saw sort of phase one play out from 2022 through late 2024, driven by the Fed rate hikes, as you all well know, plus office uncertainty. Some of that has diminished and the office sector has begun a recovery. Industrials also doing quite well as are retail and hotel, which leaves multifamily. Multifamily has been facing plenty of supply challenges across the Sun Belt, including in Florida. But we could be, you know, perhaps close to a trough there, although everyone's been thinking that for the last year. Nevertheless, at the same time, rates are going higher. So multifamily could be sort of the next wave of stress. and then you look at where commercial mortgage REITs are trading at 50% of book value. So I guess what are your high level thoughts on the landscape we're facing and where Suns can really move the needle if it's going to just be on direct originations or if you see that there could be potential consolidation opportunities?
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
So the good news is our headquarters is in a place called Palm Beach, Florida. And Palm Beach, Florida is an A-plus market according to many, many different indicators. So we are definitely experiencing in southern Florida on the Treasure Coast some absorption issues and multifamily. We're not really seeing it right where we are. And so you really have to have pockets of one and the other. Brian and his team do an excellent job understanding the submarkets, the markets, and that's a lot of our analysis is over absorption, absorption trends. So we're definitely on top of it. And as I said to you over the past year, look, it was terrible to get the ROEO that we had. We were fortunate that we sold the hotel. And currently we really just don't have any other stress assets at all. And so that's the good news. And then I think, so that's part one, right? And two is how do we take advantage of stuff? We actually agree with you. There are pockets of real distress out there and distressed REITs, and I think we should be looking at their assets and them also for potential opportunities for our shareholders. We'll be out there looking at opportunities. We're opportunistic lenders, and we'll be opportunistic also with trying to find distressed assets or distressed managers and help them get through this cycle.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, obviously, hey, Jay, it's Brian. I obviously agree with Len. I think clearly what's happening in the markets right now, just from our competitive perspective, you know better than us, you're seeing a lot of groups opting to either exit the business and or dealing with asset management issues. I think that you're definitely seeing consolidation in the type of REITs that are focused much more on the flow type business, which as you know is not what we focus on. It's much more value add type opportunities. And what we've seen is a significant pullback in the groups doing those types of deals, which I think largely is what's opened it up for us. I think the biggest thing for us is being patient. I think deals are coming to us. I think the biggest risk is acting too expeditiously on a transaction. I mean, as Len sort of hit on, we are seeing some of these groups who have been competitive of ours currently struggling and therefore are looking to offload some of their portfolios. So I think we are in offensive mode based upon everything we said in terms of our availability of capital and we're just being super strategic in what we're going after. On the multi side, I mean as you know, I think there's gonna continue to be a lot of issues, rates going up is exactly the wrong move for groups that are sitting on transactions that they originated in 21, 22, that vintage multifamily is now definitely at the epicenter of the problem. And so that is, fortunately, we don't have those types of assets, so I think we're feeling pretty good there. On a go-forward basis, as you know, that cliff of Development has dropped off precipitously. And that will, in markets like Len mentioned, Palm Beach and other growth markets, that will certainly allow groups to start building again because there's growth behind it. So I think there's a lot of pockets of opportunity we'll keep going after. And it's a combination of all those. And I think the biggest thing for us is just staying patient and going after the pockets that we think are really interesting returns for our investors.
Jade Romani
Analyst, KBW
Thank you very much.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
Thank you. One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Timothy D'Agostino of B. Reilly. Please go ahead.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking the question today and congrats on the merger. I guess with the combined portfolio now and just looking forward, could you maybe talk to or quantify the potential annual G&A savings and when those might show up, if there are any. Thank you.
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Sure. And you can find this in the proxy as well. So we estimated that the annual G&A savings would be about $1.2 million. And that relates to combined personnel, less audit, no duplicate audits or tax returns, less board fees. that's what's really driving the G&A is the duplicate items of having similar funds.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
And should we expect to see that in, will they fully show up in 4Q or is that more like a 1Q event?
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
I mean since the merger just happened it's going to be more of a forward-looking 2027 event and then also wanted to point out that in 2027 we also do have the management fee waiver of $250,000 per quarter.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
Okay, that's helpful. I guess just in regards to the pipeline, I was wondering if you could just provide maybe any color on what that looks like, I guess maybe in terms of location, property type, as well as investment size. It might be hard to comment on, but just looking at the one deal that closed in the third quarter, I believe it was the Park City Utah Residential for I think the current commitment is about $2.1 million. So it would just be good to kind of hear a little bit more about what's in the pipeline.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, sure, Tim. It's Brian. So largely the type of deals we're going after is exactly the type we've historically gone after. So big focus on the southern U.S., right? That's not changing, but as we've always said, strategically and opportunistically, we may follow a borrower or a pre-existing relationship into another market. And we are certainly willing to do that, but the core has always been, we'll continue to be focusing on where those paths of growth are. And so that's what comprises the current pipeline for the substantial majority of the deals we're going after. Like I said earlier, I think you should think about residential will continue to remain a key focus of ours. I think particularly for us, where we're seeing the pockets of opportunities, both from a rate of return, because as I mentioned earlier, some of our competitors are pulling back in that area, and then just also from a division of where the opportunity set is, is those higher end sort of K-shaped type recovery opportunities where we're still seeing a lot of demand for residential product. And so we want to keep leaning into that. We obviously had our Panther deal. We have several others we're working on. So those are some big focus. And then outside of that, where we do really well is in some mixed-use properties where there's more complication and we can lean in and hopefully bring our expertise. Those what I would say are the really big areas of focus for us. From a deal size perspective, look, we have to be cognizant of concentration. And so we often are playing in the bigger deal sizes. And so what that typically means is if they get too large and chunky, we will bring in co-investors to help us with those deals while still maintaining certainly a big are all in an important control position in those deals. So I think that's sort of what we're mindful of, and as we obviously can expand and grow, we can continue to hold and eat more of that cooking ourselves. But I think the pipeline's pretty strong. The other one I'll say is one that you've heard many times, and we're certainly seeing this, is now clearly with rates expected to go up, let alone stay in their elevated state, that is absolutely reducing the amount of sales that are happening. And that is resulting in additional calls that we're getting on providing those gap equity or I should say those gap capital needs where we would come in and either take out the senior and expand out or alternatively provide a sub-debt tranche. And so we're seeing a lot of those types of returns. I definitely expect that those will continue particularly as we move towards year end.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
Okay, great. And if I could just ask one more. I know, I believe Len talked a little bit about it in the prior remarks, but with the deal now behind you and you have more scale at the platform, I guess when we think about unsecured financing, it seems like that's probably the next step here. Could you just provide a timeline on that? Has anything changed around when you're thinking about a potential unsecured deal?
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
I mean, the problem with the unsecured markets, in my opinion, as we talk to our Partners, it's too expensive. There's too many rates borrowing in the low double digits. And somehow you get broad brush with that even though we have lower leverage, we don't have the non-accruals that everybody else has. We have a really good solid portfolio. It doesn't matter. And I think the combination, at least we get a little bit bigger and we get more scale, which is going to be part of what we need. But the other thing is we're going to need the markets to allow us to get a cost of capital that makes sense. As you know, we currently lend at 9% all-in cost to Sons from a mezzanine perspective, right?
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Our unsecured is an 8% fix with a 1% annual fee.
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
So to get an all-in cost there, right, with OID, broker fees, and everything else, we have to be able to beat that, in my view, to want to access the unsecured market. And so hopefully, as we grow and we continue to perform, and we get a good rating, maybe eventually, that can lead to a sub-9% all-in cost of capital, which I think that's sort of my bogey for being willing to access that market.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
Okay. Understood. That's helpful, Kyle. I appreciate it. Thanks for taking the questions today and congrats again.
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Thanks.
Timothy D'Agostino
Analyst, B. Riley
Sure.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
One moment for the next question. Our next question is coming from the line of Tyler. Viteri of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Tyler Viteri
Analyst, Oppenheimer
Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me, the share repurchase program, just help us think about how you're balancing that with originating new loans. Sounded like in the prepared comments you'd like to execute on that before year end. So just wanted to be sure that I heard that correctly too.
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
I think we said we want to, we definitely will start it before year end. I'm not sure we're going to execute on the whole share buyback.
Brandon Hetzel
Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I think maybe you heard that the share buyback is currently through December 31st of 2027, so through all of next year as well.
Len Tannenbaum
Executive Chairman
Right. But I think it's an important component. Look, the stock is trading at a level that the board determined that could be a very good use of capital to buy back shares. And, you know, as long as the stock continues to trade in this area, I think share buybacks have to be considered more than using that equity to do something different. So I think, you know, we're excited to be able to buy back shares at a significant discount to our EV. Okay.
Tyler Viteri
Analyst, Oppenheimer
I appreciate the clarification there. And there have been a number of questions here just on originations and whatnot. I'm curious. was the merger a hang-up at all in terms of what you could execute on? I don't know if there was any sort of pause in terms of your process while you were working on that deal or maybe just the broader environment is just a bigger hurdle in terms of getting stuff across the finish line.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, definitely the latter. It wasn't the merger that was holding us up. I think it's, you know, back to the commentary before, I think that we have a A big focus on patience and picking our spots to get involved in. I think that the biggest risk right now that anyone has is an eagerness to get capital out. We think the opportunity set out of us, and like I said, we're starting to see that, is really strong, and I think you pick your spots and be patient about that. On top of that, as Len mentioned, there are several deals that we are in heavy diligence on. and these types of deals are just not flow type deals, so they just take longer to actually execute. So sometimes you just end up with a chunky quarter, sometimes you don't. So I think it's a combination of those two things that are the reason why I think what you're really asking is, you know, was transaction volume slower in the quarter?
Tyler Viteri
Analyst, Oppenheimer
Okay. That's all from me. I'll pass it on. Thank you.
Conference Call Operator
Operator
Sure. Thank you. And that does conclude today's Q&A session. I would like to turn the call back over to Brian Sedrish, CEO, for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Brian Sedrish
Chief Executive Officer
Well, thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on the progress next quarter. Have a good day.
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Operator
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