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Xcel Energy Inc. Q3 F2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Hello and welcome to the Xcel Energy 2026 third quarter earnings call. My name is Tracy and I'll be your moderator for today's event. Please note, this conference is being recorded and for the duration of the call, your lines will be in a listen only mode. Thank you, Tracy.
Roopesh Sanghvi
Vice President, Investor Relations
Good morning and welcome to Xcel Energy's 2026 Third Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me today are Bob Frenzel, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Van Abel, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. In addition, we have other members of the management team in the room to answer your questions if needed. This morning, we will review our 2026 Third Quarter results and highlights, share recent business and regulatory updates, update our five-year capital and financing plan, and provide updated 2026 assumptions and 2027 guidance. Slides that accompany today's call are available on our website. Some comments during today's call may contain forward-looking information. Significant factors that could cause results to differ from those anticipated are described in our earnings release and SEC filings. Today, we will discuss certain metrics that are non-GAAP measures. information on the comparable gap measures and reconciliations are included in our earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Bob.
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Roopesh, and good morning, everybody. The build-out and modernization of our U.S. energy system is well underway. Utilities across the country are investing substantial time and money to upgrade, fortify, and modernize the U.S.'s critical grid infrastructure. Power developers are working to build more than 80 gigawatts of new utility-scale generating capacity in the United States this year, eclipsing last year's record build of 53 gigawatts. And this growth is fueled by a number of factors, including meeting the growing and evolving power and resiliency demands of existing and new residential and business customers, serving the growing demand for power by technology companies as they build data infrastructure for cloud and AI compute needs, and advancing the nation's generation fleet to newer, more sustainable energy sources. As one of the nation's largest builders of new generation and high voltage transmission, Xcel Energy is meeting this extraordinary moment in our nation's history and helping lead America's energy renaissance. We're investing in the infrastructure that our customers and our communities need while staying focused on what's always mattered the most, safety, reliability, affordability and disciplined execution. We've made considerable progress on our priorities this quarter, resulting in ongoing earnings of $1.52 per share for our investors who remain on track for a strong 2026. Our updated five-year investment plan that we're sharing today gives us a clear path to extend our growth cycle and continue to deliver the affordable and reliable energy that our customers need well into the next decade. Let's start with our accomplishments. We invested $3.5 billion this quarter, $10 billion year-to-date, and are on track for over $14 billion of critical infrastructure investment for our customers this year. This month, we'll place into service our 335-megawatt Arroyo II solar facility, which will be the largest solar facility in the state of Colorado. We started construction on over 1,500 megawatts of new renewable and natural gas generation and battery storage projects in the Upper Midwest. we reached constructed decisions or settlements across rate cases representing 90% of our rate base. We were selected for another Department of Energy grant. This time it's a $250 million award under the SPARC program that supports a one plus billion dollar investment to modernize a critical interconnection between the Western and the Eastern grids. And we continue to see steady improvements in customer satisfaction as measured by J.D. Power with third quarter performance scoring well within the first quartile while we maintain a strong focus on reliability and a commitment to keeping bills as low as possible. Based on our results through the third quarter, we're narrowing our 2026 ongoing earnings guidance range to $4.10 to $4.16 per share and remain on track to deliver on full year guidance for the 22nd year in a row. In addition, we're initiating our 2027 earnings guidance range of $4.48 to $4.62 per share. Today, we're introducing an updated $70 billion five-year investment plan designed to serve increasing energy demand, to make needed investments to strengthen and modernize our transmission and distribution systems, to provide a cleaner and more sustainable energy portfolio, and to keep energy safe, reliable, and affordable for all of our customers. In total, we expect this plan will deliver more than nine gigawatts of renewable generation, more than three gigawatts of natural gas fire generation and more than two gigawatts of energy storage to ensure system reliability. 2,400 new high voltage transmission line miles to support demand growth and regional delivery needs and approximately $4 billion of investments in our distribution and transmission systems to improve resiliency and reduce future risk of wildfires. In addition to our base capital plan, we have a robust pipeline of additional investment opportunities that exceeds $10 billion and extends into the early 2030s. We see additional investments driven by multi-gigawatt RFPs in all three of our regions. Future high-voltage transmission projects in each of our regions and infrastructure needed to serve four gigawatts of new data centers that we expect to contract before the end of next year. Our confidence in delivering this portfolio on budget, on time, and on scope is rooted in our track record as one of the nation's leading builders of energy infrastructure. Xcel Energy is the number one builder of new transmission line miles since 2008 and the number two builder of renewable and natural gas generation since 2015. Our approach to project execution, which combines strategic partnerships with key EPCs and OEMs, Standardized project management, integrated system planning, and a dedicated major projects group is a differentiator in the industry. And our ability to deliver infrastructure with excellence combined with the access to some of the country's best wind and solar resources allows our customers to benefit from some of the lowest energy bills in the country. Over the past five years, our residential electric and natural gas bills have been 29 and 11% below the national average respectively. Our residential electric customers in Colorado continue to have the lowest share of wallet out of all 50 states, and average bills in our other states occupy five of the next 11 spots. Typical residential Xcel Energy electric and natural gas bill, when adjusted for inflation, is 14 and 20% lower than it was in 2014. Our innovative Steel for Fuel program that was started in 2017 is on pace to save customers a total of approximately $18 billion from PTCs and avoided fuel costs by 2031. And since starting our Red Truck initiative in Colorado in 2023, we have more than doubled our energy assistance adoption rate. In fact, the Red Truck has been so effective, we're expanding it to the Upper Midwest, Texas, and New Mexico.
Roopesh Sanghvi
Vice President, Investor Relations
Importantly,
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Our updated 27-31 investment plan does not depend on contracting any new data center customers. It's largely anchored in investments required to serve our existing customer base, including continued oil and gas growth and SPS and broader beneficial electrification, building new and improving the resiliency of our network assets, and modernizing our generation fleet with cleaner, more sustainable energy sources. Looking forward, we remain on track to sign ESAs for an additional one gigawatt of data centers by the end of 2026 and another three gigawatts by the end of 2027. The infrastructure required to serve these new data centers is not in our base $70 billion plan and is considered part of our more than $10 billion of incremental opportunities that I described earlier. In addition to large campus scale projects, we're seeing a significant interest in a more localized data center and advanced manufacturing projects, which add diversity to our sales mix and provide speed to market for an emerging customer class. For example, in the upper Midwest, an existing office building has been repurposed to support a 20 megawatt data center with the potential to expand over time. This opportunity is a distribution connected customer, which can leverage existing infrastructure, brings meaningful new load onto the system, improves utilization, and importantly, creates benefits for our existing customers. As we think about future data center growth, our contracting principles are based on our longstanding commitment to ensure that the needs of our customers and our communities are met. We believe in responsible development. We believe that existing customers should not subsidize new large loads. We have filed large load tariffs that include incremental cost tests, long-term commitments, minimum bills, credit support, and exit protections. As you see in our recent contract with Google in Minnesota, we believe that data centers can be an asset to our communities and customers as they bring jobs, support local investment, provide substantial tax revenues, commit to clean energy, and provide substantial customer bill benefits. We believe that we can, in fact, protect the planet while we simultaneously propel our economies. And finally, our performance and our commitment to the communities we serve always starts with our people. This past summer made that clearer than ever. Through record-breaking temperatures across our service territory, our teams worked around the clock, keeping the lights on and energy flowing for millions of customers who depend on us. and this commitment to service does not stop when the workday ends. Xcel Energy recently held our 16th annual Day of Service, which is our company's largest volunteer initiative. Approximately 2,000 employees, retirees and Xcel Energy family members volunteered nearly 7,500 hours to generate immeasurable impact to our local nonprofit organizations across our eight states. This year also marks the 25th anniversary of our Xcel Energy Foundation. as a charitable arm of Xcel Energy, the foundation supports local nonprofit organizations focused on community vitality, environmental sustainability, and STEM career pathways, while empowering employees to give back through volunteering, charitable giving, and community engagement. We recently completed our annual employee-led Power Your Purpose campaign, and since 2001, this campaign has raised more than $120 million from employees, retirees, and partners. With matching contributions by the foundation, to power positive change across our communities. This industry is demanding and the pace of change is not slowing. The progress we've made and the ambitious goals ahead are only possible because of the determination, commitment, and skills our teams bring every day to make energy work better for our customers and our community. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian. Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Starting with our financial results, Excel Energy had strong earnings of $1.52 per share for the third quarter of 2026, compared to ongoing earnings of $1.24 per share in 2025. The most significant earnings drivers for the quarter are as follows. Tire electric revenues increased earnings by $0.32 per share, primarily due to non-fuel riders, regulatory outcomes, sales growth, and favorable weather. Tire AFVDC increased earnings by $0.11 per share, and other items combined to increase earnings by 16 cents per share, primarily driven by returns in our venture capital portfolios and lower fuel and purchase power costs. Offsetting these positive drivers, higher interest expense decreased earnings by 13 cents per share and common equity financing decreased earnings by 10 cents per share. These financing costs reflect funding of our infrastructure investments and discipline to maintain a strong balance sheet. and a higher O&M expense driven by increased generation maintenance, wildfire mitigation and vegetation management that decreased earnings by $0.08 per share. Turning to sales, on a weather-adjusted basis, year-to-date electric sales increased 2.5% driven by increased activity in the energy sector and SPS and manufacturing across all OPCOs, in addition to higher residential use per customer. For 2026, We remain on track for full-year weather-adjusted electric sales to increase 3%. Moving to recent regulatory activity. Across the year, we've made considerable progress through a heavy rate case calendar, reaching constructive decisions of settlements across most of our active rate cases. These outcomes largely balance timely recovery of critical infrastructure investments for our customers while keeping bills low. Earlier this month in Minnesota, We filed a proposed rate stabilization plan for our electric utility that will keep customer base rates flat in 2027 and 2028 while supporting critical system investments. A commission decision has been requested in January 2027. In the next few months, we expect to make a recommendation filing for a 4,100 megawatt renewable and storage RFP in the Upper Midwest. And in Colorado, generation bids are due in December for our Phase II Just Transition RFP with the commission decision expected mid next year. Shifting to our updated investment plan, as Bob detailed, today we are providing a revised $70 billion five-year capital forecast. This plan extends our current five-year annualized rate-based growth of approximately 11% into 2031. These investments are critical to serve growing electric demand, to keep customer bills low, to deliver clean energy and to ensure system safety and reliability. We also have more than $10 billion of incremental investment opportunities from ongoing RFPs across jurisdictions. Infrastructure to serve four gigawatts of additional data center demand and transmission projects across our regions. We're excited about our growth opportunities and will continue to finance accretive growth in a balanced manner. Our updated 2027 to 2031 capital plan reflects an additional approximately $26 billion of debt and $8 billion of equity content. Of the $8 billion of equity, we've already contracted over 40%, which gives us a considerable flexibility alongside our strong balance sheet. Moving to earnings, based on performance through the third quarter, we are narrowing our ongoing earnings guidance range to $4.10 to $4.16 per share. We're also initiating our 2027 earnings guidance range of $4.48 to $4.62 per share. Key assumptions are detailed in our earnings release. Based on our updated forecast, we're extending to 2031 our expectation to deliver on average 9 plus percent EPS growth. From 27 to 2030, we expect to deliver on average 10 plus percent EPS growth. We are maintaining our dividend growth objective of 4 to 6% with the expectation to be at the low end of the range. Over our 27 to 2031 forecast period, we expect our dividend payout ratio will trend downward in our payout ratio range of 45 to 55%, which allows greater financial flexibility for the future. With that, I'll wrap up with a quick summary. We continue to lead a clean energy transition while ensuring safe, affordable, and reliable service. We've announced an industry-leading $70 billion five-year capital investment program that provides strong, transparent rate-based growth and significant customer value. A base capital plan is driven by investments into existing and new grid infrastructure and modernizing and transitioning our generation fleet with new data centers fueling incremental opportunities well into the 2030s. Our customers have and will continue to have some of the lowest energy bills in the country. We have a proven formula for major project execution that will help enable us to deliver projects on budget, on time, and on scope well into the 2030s. We maintain a strong balance sheet and credit metrics and have already addressed over 40% of our updated 27 to 2031 equity need. We delivered strong earnings of $1.52 per share in the third quarter and are narrowing our 2026 ongoing earnings guidance range to $4.10 to $4.16 per share. We've initiated our 2027 earnings guidance range of $4.48 to $4.62 per share. And finally, we're extending our expectation to deliver 9 plus percent EPS growth on average to 2031. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we will now take questions.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you're muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Now please stand by for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Barclays
Hey, good morning. Thanks for the updates. I was just hoping to maybe, hey, so I was just hoping maybe a little color on what 10 plus percent means in the prepared remarks the next few years, especially in that 27 to 30 timeframe. just rate-based growth from a shaping perspective actually seems to be substantially above the 11% rate-based CAGR in the middle parts of this plan. And you did do 11% year over year into 27. So just should there be years in this plan that are maybe closer to that or how would you frame it if I'm missing anything there? Thanks.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Hey Nick and good morning. Yeah, maybe I'll answer it a little bit this way in terms of You've heard me talk about the rule of thumb of rate-based growth versus EPS growth and generally see 200 to 250 basis points delta between those two. And so if you take our current five-year plan, we have 11% rate-based growth and nine plus percent EPS growth. So we're on the inside of that rule of thumb. And really it's a little bit, it varies from point to point. And if we look at 26 to 30, we have 14% rate-based growth and I would say 10 plus percent EPS growth there as we delivered, as we talked about over this past year on that, bringing that incremental pipeline into our plan. But when we think about the financing, making sure we maintain strong balance sheet, you see 14% rate-based growth with 10 plus percent EPS growth. We're going to be probably on the outside of that rule of thumb, I guess. But then, you know, take it a six year from 26 to 2031, We have 12% rate-based growth and 9 plus percent EPS growth. We're basically right in line with that. So I think that can give you some color on the shaping. Obviously, we're pretty excited about this plan. We're going to deliver over 9,000 megawatts of clean energy for our customers, and we're going to keep customer bills affordable. And so I think that's really important longer term. We have incremental opportunity, particularly on the large load, which will continue to help with customer affordability.
Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Barclays
Thanks for laying it out like that. And then maybe just this NSP RFP, which you brought up, four gigawatts is just a large number of capital, even by 2030, even if you went half of this. So just since that falls into your five-year plan, do we get another revision in fourth quarter or first quarter to this plan? Or do you hold that back to the next third quarter role? Thanks.
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Hey, Nick, it's Bob. You know, I laid out a number of buckets that we think drive what I think is a robust pipeline of incremental opportunities. You hit on one of which is the Minnesota RFP, where we expect to understand what that might look like by the end of this year or early next. Historically, this is our sort of annual update, but as we did last year, as we rolled through the years, we were identifying and delivering projects to round out our 10 plus. Last year, you saw us make announcements on generation RFP outcomes, transmission outcomes, and you should expect us to do the same thing. And so if I think about the three big buckets we have here in RFPs in all three of our jurisdictions, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of six to eight gigawatts of nameplate generation needs. the data center, four gigawatts of data centers and the infrastructure delivered on those which is not included in this is probably somewhere in the area of 10 to 12 gigawatts of generation. So right there, you're at sort of the 15 to 20 gigs of total gen over the next five to six years. And then with regards to transmission, we probably have two to $4 billion of opportunity in all three of our regions, SPP, MISO, Colorado to add to the incremental transmission that's within this plan. I expect a decent bit of that to be in this five-year period. Some might drift out just because of the timeline that transmission takes. But that's a robust pipeline of opportunities that we'll keep this group informed of. And much like last year, I'd expect to meet or exceed that bucket by this time next year. So you should expect that capital trends towards, as Brian said, towards the back end of our financial plan, 30, 31, maybe a little bit into 32. bolstering the back year of capital and bolstering the long-term rate-based growth and earnings growth that follows.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Nick, just expect kind of the cadence that we gave this year, really get the delivering line of sight into it. But this is, as Bob said, this is our normal cadence, five-year roll for the capital plan, sales forecast, customer affordability, all that rolls into our normal Q3 plan.
Nicholas Campanella
Analyst, Barclays
Thanks a lot. Really appreciate it.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Carly Davenport
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Hey, good morning. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Maybe just to pick up on some of the earlier comments on the data center side, recognizing this is still an upside driver to the plan. Could you talk a little bit about your confidence level in signing another gigawatt by the end of this year and then how you're kind of tracking in conversations on the three gigawatt 2027 target?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, thanks, Carly. You know, obviously we're in active ESA negotiations right now with a large counterparty and certainly focused on delivering that significant amount of generation, but also a significant amount of customer affordability benefits with that project. So that's kind of focused through balance of the year. When I look at our pipeline, where we are in the stage gate of each of our kind of think about our different high probability projects, Loads, really kind of the biggest opportunities right now are in the upper Midwest and SPS as we talked about. When I look at project counts and gigawatts that we're actively working on, Colorado's, as we've always said, is going to be a little bit later cycle. We're in the large load tariff hearings right now in Colorado. And so that's probably a little bit of a longer term, but really excited about our opportunity in the upper Midwest in SPS. and so we are on track and I feel good about what we call a total of four gigawatts over through the end of 2027. And that's really going to, I think about help extend into the 2030s and you think about when they would actually energize, when we'd be building the projects into. So really help extend the growth opportunity, but also help drive customer affordability into the 2030s. I would just say one, the one part that we probably don't talk enough about is you're asking about on the large load, the load side, Well, we focus on our generation development team, and we have, I would argue, the best regulated generation development team in the business. We have 15 gigawatts of projects in our base plan between renewables, storage, some natural gas generation. we're working on about 25 gigawatts in our pipeline of generation in terms of how do we ensure we have the projects that we need to deliver not only to these large load customers but also all the RFPs that we're working on ensure we can bring low-cost projects to our current customers and so it's a big focus there some of our partnerships on the developer side the partnerships on the EPC side and OEM side all play into an overall strategy in terms of how do we deliver
Carly Davenport
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Got it. That's super helpful. And then maybe, Brian, just going off of those comments on the development side, you've talked about some of the development partnerships. A little bit of a shift, it seems, in disclosure on the NextEra JDA this quarter. Anything shifting on that front, or is it just a function of more development partnerships kind of coming into the fold here?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, it's really just a function of what we see as our opportunity and working with additional developers. I mean, for NextEra, NextEra, we're working on multiple work streams underway, looking at on the generation side and on the load side. We have multiple gigawatts of projects identified both in the upper Midwest and in the South, and we're working on some specific load sites. So certainly very engaged with NextEra, but also when we see the amount of generation that we need to bring, it's how do we expand our partnerships, and that's what you see.
Carly Davenport
Analyst, Goldman Sachs
Thank you so much for the time.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonnet with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Jeremy Tonet
Analyst, JPMorgan
Hi, good morning. Good morning, Jeremy. Thanks for taking my question here. Just wanted to start off on the topic of affordability as it's very topical across the industry right now. Your materials show a lot of strong metrics there, you know, particularly across wallet share and bill directionality from what we see as well. You know, Excel certainly screens better than most of the industry here. I just want to turn to Colorado a little bit more if we could. A lot of conversation there on what's being, I guess, productive CapEx. And just wondering if you could share any thoughts from your point of view on this metric when you think about developing the capital plan for Colorado.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Look, Jeremy, I can sort of that and Bob can chime in. You know, I would say all of our CapEx is productive. I wouldn't would so I don't think any of the CapEx we're investing on behalf of our customers is not productive. Focus on safety, reliability, enabling load growth. We see significant penetration of EVs, a lot of folks on capacity. and then also our investments in wildfire mitigation programs in Colorado to keep our customers and communities safe. So our business areas do a whole capital prioritization exercise to ensure we're putting the money in the places where it's going to benefit our customers. So we not only do that at the functional area but also the operating company area. So in terms of CapEx, I think we feel really good about how we focus where we need to invest our capital.
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
and Jeremy, it's Bob. I commented in my prepared remarks, but I think it's worth re-mentioning, you know, our Steel for Fuel program is expected to deliver over $18 billion across the enterprise from production tax credits. And that's in part a backward looking and a part a forward looking. And so as we continue to deploy renewables, we continue to drive real benefit for our customers. As I think about large loads, I think about These hyperscaler customers can help bring down predominantly on the transmission costs across all of our service territories a lower transmission rate for all customers. When you think about the grid as one big fixed asset, if you put more units of production through it, you're going to see a lower rate for all people across the same fixed asset. That holds true for the distribution side as we start to see distribution-level data centers helping bring down the cost of the distribution grid to customers. and EVs are the same. We know, and there's some studies out that show that every electric vehicle that's added to the grid helps bring down the cost of the distribution grid to all customers. I think all of that is sort of cost enhancing productive capital. I know what you meant by that, but I agree with Brian wholeheartedly that everything we do is for the benefit of our customers, whether it's resiliency related, it's risk reduction, it's enhanced production, you know, decarbonization, all that stuff's very valuable to our customers and to our states. And so Colorado starts as the, literally the lowest share of wallet in the country. So we feel like we have a great starting point and we've made great investments there to help our customers.
Jeremy Tonet
Analyst, JPMorgan
Got it. That makes a lot of sense. We figured a very thoughtful approach to capital deployment here. and just wanted to, I guess, pivot real quick, I guess, to the asset sale, Michigan there and figure it's small overall, but just wondering if you could share any thoughts there that could reduce equity needs a bit or anything else.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Hey, Jeremy, I can take that one. I've been CFO for seven years now and I think this is the first question I've had on Michigan. It is 0.2% of the overall XL company from a rate-based perspective. We're always going to be good stewards of our portfolio. Like I said, Michigan is a very small part of our rate base. There's two strategic buyers that already operate in the Upper Peninsula and are good buyers and will be good stewards of the 9,000 electric customers and 6,000 gas customers that we're selling. So, and look, the price is confidential. We haven't disclosed anything, but expect that, you know, it's comparable to precedent transactions. We're working through the regulatory process. We'll be making filings with FERC, the Wisconsin Commission, Michigan Commission, expect it to close by end of year next year. Just assume anything from a sale proceeds is incorporated into our numbers.
Jeremy Tonet
Analyst, JPMorgan
Got it. That's helpful. I'll leave it there. Thank you.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Julian Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hey, team. Thanks for the time.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
I appreciate the opportunity.
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Morning, Julian.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
Can you guys hear me?
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Okay. There we go.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
Awesome. Hey, I just wanted to come back to where Nick started earlier. Can you rehash this real quickly on the 200, 250 basis points on equity lag there? You want to just make that a little bit clearer. Are you still expecting that or is it wider here just given the uptick here? I just want to make sure I heard you right there. And then related, just the FFO to debt uptick in the outlook here. You've added about, I don't know, a percent or so to a point to each year, give or take. Just what's going on there in terms of the outlook getting better on FFO to debt metrics? Is there any nuance or subtlety in customer deposits or something else going on there? I know you guys caveat that doesn't really include the data center uplift per se, so. Is there anything else?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Hey, Julian, I think I understood the first question. So just make if I don't answer it, just please clarify. I didn't say anything in terms of changing the rule of thumb of that delta. What I'm saying is there's a rule of thumb and it can be point sensitive when you pick a certain year. And so I was giving you a couple of examples of, you know, because our current five year we're inside of that rule of thumb when we look at the rate base to EPS delta. in the last year's plan update of these capital numbers would be a little bit outside of it given the equity financings are a more front load of our capital plan. But if you pick the six-year period, we're right inside that rule of thumb. So that's all I was saying is a little, it's just anytime you do kind of like that analysis, it can be point-to-point sensitive. So that's the only point I was making. I think it's intact as a rule of thumb, absolutely. On your second question, we have, improving credit metrics, particularly if you look at our FFO to debt in 30 and 31. 31, it hits 18%. Our debt to EBITDA improves over a five-year period. And so we think about that gives us some additional financial flexibility. It's absolutely important to maintain a strong balance sheet. But when I have always talked about that, we've always targeted a 17% FFO to debt metric. So that gives us some additional flexibility for potential capital we could add in 2030 and 2031 relative to that kind of Rule of thumb, 40% equity that we've given for every dollar of incremental capital. So a good question there in terms of it's really important to maintain a strong balance sheet. We think we have one of the best balance sheets in the industry, and we're going to keep it that way, but we also have some financial flexibility as we look in all part of our plan.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
Awesome. And then not to nitpick too much, but How are you looking at the data center opportunity as much as some of the states are maybe pulling back here on sales and use tax exemptions, making maybe Colorado more competitive? A, and then B, I heard your comment about distribution level data center activity. Does that help your 75 to 100 basis point earned RE lag that you talked about in Colorado? And or for that matter, your other jurisdictions on the margin? Or is it just too small still?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
So I think I'll take your question. Last question first. Just assume some of those distribution level opportunities are built into our plan, but they're developing, right? It's newer term. We do think it's a good opportunity, a really good opportunity from a grid utilization perspective, as you think about where these can be located. And so I think that's a developing opportunity. We've seen the most interest in the upper Midwest so far. I think Colorado, if we see it, it could be a little bit longer term. and so, but it's really, and it's not just distribution level, it's advanced manufacturing in terms of what we're seeing is some other called significant load opportunities. Back to your first question around sales tax exemptions, we have that in three of our states, but I don't think it's necessary to be competitive by any means. When we see the opportunities spread across our states, Not only in terms of Upper Midwest and SPS, but also PSCO. PSCO's the focus is get through the large load tariff filing. Now, we think about our diversity of geography as being beneficial operating in a number of states. Whereas if you have challenges in a single state from a large load perspective, you can focus your time and attention on the other states that are looking for that economic development and also customer benefit from these large loads. So overall, I think we continue to be very competitive given our low cost renewable resources, our geographic diversity. So we're excited about the opportunity and we'll keep you updated on them.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
Right. And by the way, to rehash that earlier point about the equity dilution, you're basically implying if we do the math, 10.5 to 11 EPS for that 28 to 30 time period, that elevated period. Pure math, Julian.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah.
Julian Dumoulin-Smith
Analyst, Jefferies
Awesome. Thanks.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Richard Sunderland with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Richard Sunderland
Analyst, Truist Securities
Hey, good morning. Thanks for the time today. You know, I want to pick up a couple of these different threads here around the upside CapEx and the growth. You know, just thinking about some of the component pieces in the near term across, you know, I guess a one gigawatt babysitter ESA by year end and that NSP RFP update in December alone. Those two components seem like you're using your six to eight billion for one gig of load and different construction costs and generation. You're talking already sort of above 10 billion plus. Could you zoom out a little bit and speak maybe even more to the bigger quantum of what may come into the plan on a line of sight basis over the next 12 months and what that could do for your rate based growth versus the 11% CAGR you outline now?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, I think what's helpful is we give this, I guess we give a lot of little thumbs, but every billion dollars of CapEx, at least in this five-year plan, is 15 to 20 basis points on our rate-based CAGR. So that's a really good way to think about it when you're right, and when we look at the near-term opportunity significance, I think that's one of the, maybe not, we should One of the opportunities we have relative to our peers is every gigawatt of data center, we have more investment opportunity from a generation perspective because we bring a clean energy portfolio to serve them. So more nameplate capacity, more investment upfront from a capital perspective, but lower operating costs for our large customers in terms of no cost fuel. from the wind and solar side. So I think as we think about our opportunity for gigawatts through 2027, you're right, we've given you that kind of rule of thumb on what the investment opportunity is. But it's also, we talked about it, it's filling in the back part of the five-year plan, but it's also bringing visibility into 32, 33, 34. If you think about these data centers and how long some of them can ramp, it'll be ramp over time and then we build the assets in over time. So it's not necessarily how do we drive it over the next five is how do we continue to provide visibility into the longer term? And I also think, you know, I talked about the capital investment side of it, but there's also these data centers are paying for all of these assets and we're ensuring that they pay for these assets and we won't bring a data center forward if it does not provide benefits for other customers. So I think, you know, as much as we're talking about the capital investment option, I think the affordability aspect that this brings is super important as we think about how do we do data center development right.
Richard Sunderland
Analyst, Truist Securities
Understood. That's very clear. And then I guess kind of looking forward to 27 here, can you speak to a little bit of the policy priority, policy front as you see it today and any opportunities or other areas of attention, you know, in the next 12 months?
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. Hey, Richard. It's Bob. Thanks for the question. obviously working on a number of fronts in the states and at the federal level. You saw the siting and permitting legislation that was drafted by the Senate on a very bipartisan basis across two committees of jurisdiction, and we're buoyed by the opportunity to look at the acceleration of siting and permitting votes at the federal level and at the state levels. You can expect us to keep working at our state levels to make sure that we can build the infrastructure that we need to do across our service territories We've been active in our states at the federal level on the wildfire front. We've gotten legislation. We've worked with counterparties to work on what we think is really sensible legislation that recognizes the benefit of wildfire mitigation in Texas, in South Dakota, North Dakota. We had proposals in Colorado and in New Mexico last year. We're going to expect to work on those very hard. Hope to get those across the goal line in 2027 with stakeholders and also at the federal level on wildfire mitigation efforts. The Fix Our Forest Act is past the House. We're hopeful that it finds a vehicle that it could pass the Senate as well and lame duck or early in the next Congress. Those are, you know, really common sense modifications to allow us and our peers to access, you know, BLM, Forest Service Lands, and work on really clearing right-of-ways in what has been a tough area to work on of late. Those are sort of the big focuses, making sure that we can have timely recovery and good regulatory as we work through all the generation that I laid out and where it impacts Texas, New Mexico in particular, trying to make sure that we can build and recover in a timely manner. Those are our broad swath of priorities for the company as we roll through our states and our federal jurisdictions next year.
Richard Sunderland
Analyst, Truist Securities
Great. Thanks for running through that, Bob. And sorry, just one cleanup from me. That 10% plus growth commentary, is that off a 26 guidance basis or some other base?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Midpoint of 26 guidance. Great.
Richard Sunderland
Analyst, Truist Securities
Thank you so much.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Sophie Karp with KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Sophie Karp
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
Hi. Good morning. Thank you for the airtime here. Maybe I can start by asking you about SPS. You have seen significant growth there for quite some time now, and I'm wondering how much runway do you think that territory has to continue posting such gains and what's your visibility there?
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, thanks for the question. We've, you know, look, we serve a huge swath of the Permian and the Delaware basins, a large commercial industrial customer base, maybe the most prolific region in the United States. And we've seen continued uptake in interest, particularly as the basin extends further and further west into New Mexico. so still see very robust oil and gas growth there and the infrastructure needed to support that. As Brian mentioned earlier, the Southwest is a big area of focus for hyperscalers. We already have three contracts with hyperscalers down there, smaller, but there's lots of interest in large-scale campuses given the rural nature of that service territory as well as the robust nature of the transmission grid. that's there now and that is expected to be built. And some of the growth is in the transmission sector itself, Sophie. So you've seen SPP be looking around corners and trying to build infrastructure in advance, building out 765 networks and bolstering 345 networks. And we're a big recipient of some of those construction notices to construct. A lot of that Transmission gets regionally allocated in cost, so the rate-based growth doesn't necessarily hit our customers completely and directly. And I guess the other piece just on the oil and gas side is we continue to see the oil and gas companies and the majors lean towards electrification of the oil patch. So you're seeing electric jack-up rigs, electric compression, and things that are helping drive sales growth down there, not just the mining itself. So hopefully that gives you a pretty good picture of what we're seeing in our service territory.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, and I would just add on to that. So if you look at our earnings release, we have 8% sales growth in SPS over a five-year CAGR. That's actually front-loaded when we look at over the next three years and is roughly half oil and gas, a little bit less than half of data centers. So really, as Bob was saying, diversified growth down there. and we see an opportunity longer term is continue to drive low growth there. Like I said, we see data center opportunities and if we can land one of those that brings significant customer benefit down there. So I think those continue to be great investment opportunities in SPS and we look at that and that's one of our kind of longer term incremental opportunities is we expect a 2000 megawatt generation RFP for accredited capacity as we continue to work through the generation needs down there. and other significant investment opportunities that benefit our customers.
Sophie Karp
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
Terrific. Thank you. And then one other question I had. Your generation plan, as I've outlined right now, is basically a mix of renewables and CTs. With all of the demand growth you've seen across your territories, would there be room there for a CCGT at some point?
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Yeah. Hey, Sophie. we certainly look at as we look at the incremental RFPs that are coming you know combined cycle can make sense you know one of the things we see in the southwest right now at least is a very depressed local gas price and so CTs have made a lot of sense and the incremental benefits and efficiencies you see in the CC haven't really emerged yet but we're looking at the forward cost curve for gas and trying to see if that makes more sense in modifying either the CTs that are there with Steam Turbines and Hersigs or building, you know, Greenfield New. So that's, yeah, you're right. It hasn't made sense yet, but it might make sense as we look forward.
Sophie Karp
Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets
All right. Thank you so much. I'll pass it on.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Steve D'Ambrisi with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Steve D'Ambrisi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Hey, Bob and Brian, thanks very much for taking my question. Just two quick ones. On the Minnesota rate stability plan, look, you're building a lot of renewables across the entirety of the footprint. So I guess just as you address affordability across, you know, you've talked about how you're starting from a great spot, but is this something that you can replicate in other jurisdictions or extend or just how you think about, you know, using some of these tax credits to potentially provide rate stabilization to your customers across your footprint?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, hey Steve, good morning. You know, I think maybe just comment a little bit on the Minnesota sale. And I think it's a really creative and great way to use these Clean Energy Tax Credits. And it's really around the storage tax credits with the ITC in terms of what the opportunity is to use them to offset some rate impacts. And so we think for Minnesota, we think it's a compelling alternative and really help with the macro affordability conversation that's happening. So obviously we'll look at it at other parts of our service territory as we continue to work through our regulatory plans in the 27 and beyond. But just, you know, we've used other tools before in terms of proposing stay outs, but having the ITCs as another lever is a great opportunity as we think longer term to manage the overall bill impacts and maintain our kind of called best in class affordability metrics.
Steve D'Ambrisi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
All right, that's very helpful. And then just on, you know, growth at some of the opcos, you know, obviously, Piesco was one of the faster growing utilities, maybe two or three years ago, as you developed, as you built out a significant, you know, work through a significant renewal build there. And in this most recent update, you know, the rate based CAGR is down to about 5%. And I guess just looking forward, you know, two questions there, like, out of 5% CAGR, what type of you know, bill and placement would you expect? And then you have additional generation opportunities. What do you think, you know, growth could look like at PSCO as we kind of move into the end of this decade and the next decade? Thanks.
Bob Frenzel
Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Well, Steve, it's Bob, and I'll start and I'll let Brian pick up on it. you know, appreciate you recognizing the diversity of our business and the ability to allocate capital where we see the growth happening. Obviously, we talked a lot about SPS and the extraordinary growth we're seeing down there, the data centers we see up here in the upper Midwest. And, you know, Brian said that, you know, the data center traffic in Colorado has a lot of pent up demand there, but we are waiting for the large load tariff to get approved at the commission and it's going through hearings kind of as we speak. the weather, customer class, diversity of regions, regulatory outcomes. We have a great diversity in our business. It's probably one of the big reasons why we've been able to deliver for 22 years in a row on our guidance. And we're not subject to weather risk. I was watching the huge negative weather in the Pacific Northwest from some of our peers, really hot in the desert Southwest in some of our peers. And so the diversity has been really great for us. As I think about Colorado, yes, we have a PSCO RFP and Process. This was originally designed to replace the retiring capacity of our Comanche 3 coal unit. And so that has a modest amount of generation needs. We see real load growth in Colorado, particularly driven by large load chairs, but by other either manufacturing or existing customer expansions that are on the docket. So there is real generation needs and real transmission needs in Colorado. I mentioned something that wasn't in our plan today, but this you know quarter of a billion dollar spark award that we got for rebuilding the Lamar tie which is the biggest DC tie between the eastern and the western interconnects is an opportunity we see in the state as well that's not within our plan so we see real growth opportunities there both on the sales side and the investment side what you're seeing in the plan is probably a conservative estimate of what you know could realize and materialize but we're being cautious about how we build into that potential
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, and Steve, I'll just add, you asked about Bill and Pax. I think not just Colorado, but our focus is on affordability across all of our states. And as the previous question, what tools do we have to manage affordability? And so Colorado is number one in the country from share of wallet. So we're in a really good starting place and expect to remain in a really good place over the long term, but not only Colorado, but our other states too. and look, there's ebb and flow in terms of investment timing, investment opportunities we think about. And like Bob said, it is having geographic diversity, state diversity, kind of economic development opportunity and diversity just ebbs and flows across our states.
Steve D'Ambrisi
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Really appreciate all the thoughtful comments. Thanks very much, guys.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Steve Fleischman with Wolf Research. Your line is open, please go ahead.
Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research
Yeah, hi, good morning, thanks. And I, sorry if I missed this question, but just as we think, I think for this latest update, you added maybe a billion of equity relative to 10 billion of capital. Just as we think about, you know, potential for further Capital CapEx increases. How should we think about a ratio of equity need?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Hey, Steve. Yeah, thanks for the question. And I think about, you know, as you pointed out or implied in your question that we've generally set a rule of thumb around 40% equity for incremental capital. When we look at our metrics improving on the back end, particularly in 2030 and 2031, that does give us financial flexibility. So adding capital at that point in time is likely will be less, it will be less important to equity in those years, but we will maintain a strong balance sheet. Like I said, we've targeted 17% having a strong balance sheet. You've heard me talk about it for the past seven years. I was treasurer a decade ago. That's always been the philosophy here at this company is to have a strong balance sheet. Capital in the near term will roughly probably be the rule of thumb, but that longer term is the opportunity from a financial flexibility perspective and be less than 40% in 30-31 timeframe.
Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research
And is that rising cash flow? Is that kind of just less regulatory lag? Well, I guess this could be the same thing, less regulatory lag and or getting more cash from these large load customers you already have in the plan?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Our cash from ops has a 13% to 14% CAGR over this time period, and that's really driven by we have a lot of these large generation, long lead time projects going into service and starting cash flow. That's a big part of what you're seeing, not necessarily the data centers, but it's just the overall project development cycle. and this build cycle as we have a lot of renewables, right? You have your 2030 cliff from a tax credit perspective. So I know we don't point it out in one of our slides, but overall in our five-year plan, our cash from ops funds about 65% of our overall capital. And then you can just continue to see that strength from our cash from ops over the long term. So that's really the underlying driver is a lot of these long, anytime projects going into service.
Steve Fleishman
Analyst, Wolfe Research
Great, thank you.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Nick Amacucci with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Nick Amicucci
Analyst, Evercore ISI
Hey, good morning, guys. I just wanted to tease out a little bit, if I could, just as we kind of think about the 2027, that load acceleration, 5% weather normalized electric sales growth versus kind of the 3% we've seen here in 2026. I guess how much of that acceleration is coming from already operating customers versus some that are committed and kind of incorporating ramps and or kind of the oil and gas electrification?
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Nick, that's a big part. So we have a significant large load energizing in SPS this quarter. And then it's a lot of the annualization of the oil and gas load that we're seeing. So that 5%, it's primarily driven by SPS when I look at my annual numbers and then you do see a little bit in Colorado a little bit of sales growth in Minnesota the energization of the data center in Minnesota too but SPS is the major driver of that and it's it's more the form as we said a lot of kind of energization and ramp of load that started this year got it that makes sense and then
Nick Amicucci
Analyst, Evercore ISI
As you think about kind of the potential for these data center contracts with the 75 to 85% minimum bills, when does that kind of payment obligation begin? Is that kind of at the infrastructure completion? Is it more initial energization or is it kind of follow a load ramp? Just trying to think through if there's any, you know, potential delays or there's a reduction in kind of the bill, like just how covered things are.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, look, a little bit of it depends on the ESA, but generally at energization. That doesn't mean they don't have obligations before and commitments before if something was to happen, but the minimum bill generally starts at energization.
Nick Amicucci
Analyst, Evercore ISI
Perfect. Thanks, guys.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
Your next question comes from the line of Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates
Hey, good morning. Just have one question left. And it has to do with the CapEx slide on slide 29. And the transmission increase, is that a function of the renewables increase that you guys are seeing? Or is that demand related? Or a grid mod? Or could just give a little bit more
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Yeah, Paul, a lot of that is driven by our 765s, particularly in SPS as we rolled another large one into the planet. You can see, if you look at the slides following that, you have over $8 billion of transmission spend in SPS. So that's a big driver of it. You also have some 765 Capital and Min2. So those are the drivers of it, not necessarily anything from a large load perspective.
Paul Patterson
Analyst, Glenrock Associates
Okay. Okay, great. Thanks so much.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
We have reached the end of the Q&A session, and I will now turn the call back to Xcel Energy CFO Brian Van Abel for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Brian Van Abel
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Thank you all for participating in our earnings call this morning. please contact our IR team with any follow-up questions.
Tracy
Conference Operator and Moderator
This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.